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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;fizzy, post: 1293830, member: 32632&quot;]excuse my double-dipping here, but you miss critical points - one: obviously my inquiry seeks out artificially introduced tarnishing that would be indistinguishable from *natural* tarnishing, and to the extent that *might* be possible you would be wrong to consider that environmental damage.&nbsp; if you would consider that damaged please describe to me damage you cannot in any way detect.&nbsp; two: there&#039;s a market for lower grade coins, even if i handle it to introduce wear, but no one wants a cleaned coin.&nbsp; in any case, even an environmentally damaged coin wins out over a cleaned one.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>although i&#039;d just as soon submit it to a grading service that does not rule out cleaned coins.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>so the theoretical alternatives you provide, from &quot;cleaned&quot; to &quot;enviromental damage&quot; just don&#039;t apply in the real world where i&#039;ve got an isabella quarter i picked up for $350 many years ago and i&#039;d like to turn it over and pay rent.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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