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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Burton Strauss III, post: 25001758, member: 59677&quot;]So here is the bad news...</p><p><br /></p><p>In addition to simple over-grading, the owner of NNC would purchase details graded (graded by reputable TPGs)&nbsp; coins on eBay, crack them out, slab them as straight-graded coins, and resell them on eBay.</p><p><br /></p><p>(You can prove this by comparing the tiny little dings and nicks - no two coins go through exactly the same path in life, even MS coins fresh from the mint have marks called &quot;bag marks&quot; because, well you get the idea).</p><p><br /></p><p>In PCGS plastic, a 1939-S MS66 Red-Brown <b>retails </b>for $22, $12 in MS65.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the 1975-S proof coin, they don&#039;t even give a price guide for red-brown proofs, nor less than DCAM. The coin isn&#039;t DCAM, but PF67DCAM RED retails for $8.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Now PCI... ah PCI... that generation (which I call the bullet train) comes AFTER the blatantly fraudulent PCI period (seriously, Google it: pci rico fraud)</i></p><p><br /></p><p>(If you follow up, the case was appealed to the 5th circuit, reversed and remanded</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>followed by several long paragraphs that say this doesn&#039;t mean the defendants didn&#039;t commit ordinary fraud, just that the remedy selection based on the RICO finding was in error.</p><p><br /></p><p>So we come back to Southern Texas and the plaintiff files: oh, based on guidance from the appeals court, we pick ordinary damages, please. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And the judge says &quot;sure&quot; and signs the proposed order:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1601603[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Whatever happened, THAT generation of PCI was dead-gone-dead.</p><p><br /></p><p>Whoever bought the PCI intellectual property and assets started up a new PCI.&nbsp; They ran out of a PO Box on Long Island and then a UPS store in Florida, and I&#039;ve never seen any good claim to the name.</p><p><br /></p><p>They didn&#039;t get any better at grading.</p><p><br /></p><p>During the life of this iteration, they appear to have graded something over 60,000 coins (yours is #62,543 and I have #s as low as 3113 so ...) (plus there are 2011.95 coins and ones with the train but no tracks and the tracks but no train).</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1601606[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS lists an MS63 1974 clad Ike at $20, retail. MS64 for $24.</p><p><br /></p><p>Their website fades out in 2018 - it becomes a GoDaddy parking page, a front page for an online casino, that kind of stuff. The company was dissolved in Florida records in 2017 (look up P12000014667). </p><p><br /></p><p>There is a name in those records, but not a lot of hits in google. That name WAS originally one of the defendants in the case... but was dismissed from the case in 2014, </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>FWIW, from Hallmark&#039;s 1989 - to the 2018 end, this is the longest run of companies using the same physical slab shell...[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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