Real or Fake?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by dlts, Mar 21, 2023.

  1. dlts

    dlts Well-Known Member

    I was given this coin and can't find out anything about it other than it looks like a gold Rose Guinea.
    Any thoughts on it would be greatly appreciated.


    1777 George lll obv.jpg 1777 George lll rev2.jpg 1777 Geroge lll rev.jpg
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I can see where it had traces of some kind of plating on it. The lettering and devices are a bit quirky. It’s certainly not a Rose Guinea or pattern thereof, but you’ve already guessed that.

    I vote fake- but an old fake- perhaps a 19th century gaming counter.

    It might still have some modest value along those lines, if that’s what it is.
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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    PS- I fixed your images so they’d show full size instead of thumbnailed. That’s a setting you can choose yourself when posting.
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Another possibility is that it is a contemporary counterfeit (once plated) that was intended to pass in commerce.

    Again, if that’s the case, it will still have some collectibility and at least modest value in its own right.

    It’s fake, but not worthless like a modern fake would be, I reckon.
  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

  7. dlts

    dlts Well-Known Member

    That's kind of what I was thinking, too. Thanks for the input!
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  8. dlts

    dlts Well-Known Member

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  9. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Supporter! Supporter

    If it was "given" to you, you still come out ahead in knowledge.
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  10. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    I'd lean toward gaming token rather than counterfeit.
    For comparison, here's a copper token meant to look like a 1789 Guinea.
    Because of the metal, I don't think it was ever meant to fool anyone.
    Not sure the actual date of this token, but from the corrosion it's not modern!
    George III 1789 gaming token guinea.jpg
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  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I think a lot of them were early 1800s.
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