Real or...1796 10 Kopeck

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  1. Heavymetal

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    B1834879-1315-4CC1-B1B2-81CD78020C54.jpeg 96F3A8C8-1663-4847-99CA-EA9B13ED5A5A.jpeg Sellers pictures. If real any valuation guess
     
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  3. Chris B

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    I think that is a Novodel which, if real, still has value. What concerns me is that Novodels didn't circulate so it should be in better condition. What is that mark below the date?
     
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  4. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis College Dorm Collector

    I don't think it is. That is off the top of my head though, I may be wrong.
     
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  5. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis College Dorm Collector

    If it is a circulating type then the condition is really not a surprise. Also, if a circulating coin I would believe it to me authentic.
     
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  6. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    No such coin exist. 100% fantasy.

    I'll avoid sellers like him / her.
     
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  7. Heavymetal

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    That was what I thought. Thanks
     
  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

    I recently bought several big 5-kopeck pieces from the 1700s on eBay and did notice that there were a number of obvious fakes being sold. I don't think they were novodels, but admittedly, I know little about those as yet.
     
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  9. Heavymetal

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    As I researched it there were plenty of fakes
    Didn’t get a warm and fuzzy feeling
    Asking $1500 US lol
     
  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

    Fortunately the ones I saw were blatantly obvious. And the real coins I was buying were $20-30 items, tops, so not exactly high-end stuff.
     
  11. Heavymetal

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    It was listed on my local Craigslist
    Sent him/her a note
    Taken down in 5 minutes
     
  12. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Honestly these days with counterfeits, it's too easy for sellers to claim ignorance.

    Since money talks, I reckon the best way out is the following -

    1. Get paid to find counterfeits
    2. Sellers get charged for attempting to sell fakes and forfeit items. If seller wants to avoid this, they can pay a small fee for advice.
    3. Buyers can ask for advice for a small fee.
     
  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & avid numismatist Moderator

    Not a bad set of ideas in theory, but I’m certain there would be myriad issues with trying to implement something like that in reality.

    You’re right that online sales venues should police their sites better, though. Steps like this would help. Will it happen? I doubt it. Maybe if some feel it is affecting their brand reputation.

    I snort when I hear the names “Etsy” or “Craigslist” in conjunction with coins, for example. Which isn’t to say there’s not a little bit of good material and/or honest sellers on those sites sometimes.

    It’s just that the monumental heaps of garbage and proliferation of stupid and/or shady sellers crowding out the worthwhile stuff gives me pause. I don’t browse them for coins for that reason. It’s just not worth my time to sift through all the nonsense.
     
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