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<p>[QUOTE="dcarr, post: 2164266, member: 4781"]Yes, die scratches are an artifact on the working die that struck the coin. The pattern of these die scratches will be unique to that die. The point that I was attempting to make is that it was stated that fine lines do not transfer due to metal flow. My example was that fine lines transfer from a die to coin even when there is a lot of metal flow. Fine lines will also transfer during the hubbing process because hubbing a die is not unlike striking a soft piece of unhardened steel with a hardened steel die.</p><p><br /></p><p>Your ballpeen hammer example is an illustration of how a surface texture can be altered by impacting or abrading it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lathe lines were fairly common on master hubs prior to about 1950. If the lines were excessive, the hub may have been "worked" or just scrapped. Once in a while, lathe lines would make it all the way onto struck coinage.</p><p><br /></p><p>Another (perhaps more likely) avenue that lathe marks can get onto a coin is when a working die blank has lathe marks on it PRIOR to hubbing. When hubbed, the working die can still show the lathe marks through the hubbing. Here is a good web page which illustrates it: <a href="http://errorvariety.com/Lathe-lines/index.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://errorvariety.com/Lathe-lines/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://errorvariety.com/Lathe-lines/index.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is another example:</p><p><a href="http://www.errorvariety.com/Lathe-lines/82D50cWashLL001.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.errorvariety.com/Lathe-lines/82D50cWashLL001.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.errorvariety.com/Lathe-lines/82D50cWashLL001.html</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dcarr, post: 2164266, member: 4781"]Yes, die scratches are an artifact on the working die that struck the coin. The pattern of these die scratches will be unique to that die. The point that I was attempting to make is that it was stated that fine lines do not transfer due to metal flow. My example was that fine lines transfer from a die to coin even when there is a lot of metal flow. Fine lines will also transfer during the hubbing process because hubbing a die is not unlike striking a soft piece of unhardened steel with a hardened steel die. Your ballpeen hammer example is an illustration of how a surface texture can be altered by impacting or abrading it. Lathe lines were fairly common on master hubs prior to about 1950. If the lines were excessive, the hub may have been "worked" or just scrapped. Once in a while, lathe lines would make it all the way onto struck coinage. Another (perhaps more likely) avenue that lathe marks can get onto a coin is when a working die blank has lathe marks on it PRIOR to hubbing. When hubbed, the working die can still show the lathe marks through the hubbing. Here is a good web page which illustrates it: [url]http://errorvariety.com/Lathe-lines/index.html[/url] Here is another example: [url]http://www.errorvariety.com/Lathe-lines/82D50cWashLL001.html[/url][/QUOTE]
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