READ THIS! The Next Generation Of Chinese Counterfeits Have Arrived

@C-B-D what was your thoughts having a chance to examine them in hand?

 

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Well, i see two "tells" but I guess I'm not allowed to share. Too bad if you're offered one and don't know what to look for.

 

That was my thinking, too. The most lowly Chinese apprentice (the one who produces dies with a carbide Exacto knife) can put a counterfeit quarter and a genuine quarter side-by-side and tell the boss what areas need improvement, so we are just kidding ourselves about this.

It's the Americans who need the info.

 

To me they were very convincing until I heard that unfamiliar ring.

 

Might as well shut it all down then, including the forum itself. No more providing or sharing info allowed, fellas; the Chinese could be watching! Next I suppose we had better ban all quality reference material that even mentions die marriages, markers, in-depth variety info, etc, etc... it is all for the better good, right? The latter would only be as a precaution, of course, as we all know that the only way these Chinese schmoes could ever learn to, ahem, "improve" their product is by reading coin forums. Boy, are we lucky that not one in their billion-plus population could ever learn enough about our super special American coinage to copy it without the help of the CoinTalk membership! Fooled them, didn't we!

 

Could not agree more

 

They sounded like the clang of Chuck E Cheese tokens. (Yes, I have kids). Frankly, I was surprised they were 40% silver as the owner claimed.

 

When I read the original comment, I snickered. When I saw it was a Mod who posted it, I almost put my palm through my forehead. This species is doomed.

 

Yikes.

 

There are probably several hundred posts on this forum pointing out why one or another coin is counterfeit, or at least suspect. Now, when presented with a better than before copy, we're told we can't disclose the evidence. If you weren't going to educate us, why did you bother to post? And how it sounds when dropped isn't much use to anyone looking at the coin on an online auction site.

 

Be careful the Chinese are watching.

 

Those that are concerned that Chinese counterfeiters are cruising Coin talk are the first ones to give an in-depth analysis of someone's favorite coin and illuminate us as to exactly why it is a Chinese fake, talking down to the excited collector as if he is a moron for falling for such an easily detected scam.

 

Is this the same counterfeit that began showing up in the 1980s?


http://coinauctionshelp.com/Coin_Help_Blog/1934-quarter-roll-gem-counterfeits/

 

Also a pcgs article about fake 1934s

http://www.pcgs.com/News/A-Blazing-Gem-1934-Quarter-simply-Too-Good-To-Be

 

Your pointing out the tells that only an expert PCGS grader or an Internet guru could possibly detect. You have given the Chinese all they need to correct their error s.

 

These are not the counterfeits discussed in that article. This was confirmed by a former NGC finalizer.

And you guys can snicker all you want... I do not want to divulge the production mistakes they made with preparing their fake dies. The coins are fakes... They fooled many prominent dealers who I showed them to. I have not discussed their metal content, which is reported to be %40 silver until I have a chance to independently verify it with an XRF.

If you would like more information about them feel free to PM me... I however feel that posting this information in a public domain would be handing a gift to the fakers.

 

Scary no doubt........

 

personally I don't think its crazy at all, when the key dates for this series go for over 1K per pop in MS and > $5-700 in AU, and are rising in price slowly. Most of the collectors out there use your very same logic to talk them selves into buying a raw unauthenticated coin. When you know that, it's easy to see why the keys to this series are good opportunities to make money.

 

At first glance, I thought the L and I in LIBERTY are way off.

Is it confirmed to be a Chinese fake? This level of quality is known in other parts of the world. I thought China usually has the worst fakes.