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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 4630344, member: 15309"]You said you were a newbie and your first two purchases were $30, what else are we to think?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>When people engage on a forum, they infer things that they may not actually have said. So while I don't have a quote from a previous post you made in this thread, I do have what you wrote in response to me several paragraphs below, in section 5 of you rebuttal.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So how can the existence of the TPGs reduce your field of choices unless there is a financial consideration. If the money isn't the issue, buy the certified coin, and crack it out.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here, this quote from you is from a few pages back. When you say that "wall street took over the hobby" what could you possibly mean other than they caused prices to rise? Again, you inferred it.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And unless you are the submitter, the certification cost is not your concern. You didn't pay the certification fee, and the submitter can't pass it along to the buyer, all he can do is sell the coin for the assigned price range.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No, you aren't. I have been collecting coins for decades. I'm an expert at grading Jefferson Nickels, I am very proficient in grading all 20th Century silver and Morgan Dollars. That said, there are still entire genres of coins that I would still be considered a novice at grading (eg. Gold, Copper, Early US (pre civil war) Coins). My point is that you can't just "learn it" and expect to be as good or better than the professional graders at the TPGs, it simply isn't realistic.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Nonsense! Do you have a hammer? Earlier in this post, you were adamant that TPG graded coins did not put coins out of your price range, put your money where your mouth is.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I don't understand the grading of comic books either, but coins are a whole different ball game. The storage protection that certification provides is invaluable and considering that the coins will survive much longer than we (humans) will, we have a responsibility to be the best conservators that we can be. You have referenced the pros and cons of TPG grading, yet the only con I hear you saying they turn "art into science". The inherent subjectivity in grading ensures that grading will always be an art form, but TPG grading removes the power structure imbalance between collector and dealer that existed in an all raw market, and levels the playing field. What are the cons that are so egregious that would make you say the following?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 4630344, member: 15309"]You said you were a newbie and your first two purchases were $30, what else are we to think? When people engage on a forum, they infer things that they may not actually have said. So while I don't have a quote from a previous post you made in this thread, I do have what you wrote in response to me several paragraphs below, in section 5 of you rebuttal. So how can the existence of the TPGs reduce your field of choices unless there is a financial consideration. If the money isn't the issue, buy the certified coin, and crack it out. Here, this quote from you is from a few pages back. When you say that "wall street took over the hobby" what could you possibly mean other than they caused prices to rise? Again, you inferred it. And unless you are the submitter, the certification cost is not your concern. You didn't pay the certification fee, and the submitter can't pass it along to the buyer, all he can do is sell the coin for the assigned price range. No, you aren't. I have been collecting coins for decades. I'm an expert at grading Jefferson Nickels, I am very proficient in grading all 20th Century silver and Morgan Dollars. That said, there are still entire genres of coins that I would still be considered a novice at grading (eg. Gold, Copper, Early US (pre civil war) Coins). My point is that you can't just "learn it" and expect to be as good or better than the professional graders at the TPGs, it simply isn't realistic. Nonsense! Do you have a hammer? Earlier in this post, you were adamant that TPG graded coins did not put coins out of your price range, put your money where your mouth is. I don't understand the grading of comic books either, but coins are a whole different ball game. The storage protection that certification provides is invaluable and considering that the coins will survive much longer than we (humans) will, we have a responsibility to be the best conservators that we can be. You have referenced the pros and cons of TPG grading, yet the only con I hear you saying they turn "art into science". The inherent subjectivity in grading ensures that grading will always be an art form, but TPG grading removes the power structure imbalance between collector and dealer that existed in an all raw market, and levels the playing field. What are the cons that are so egregious that would make you say the following?[/QUOTE]
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