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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 1492760, member: 19463&quot;]The old fashioned among us require a VF to have unbroken head gear so a small flat spot becomes aVF and one this large on both sides is F.&nbsp; I supose you could say the coin is not as much worn as it is flatly struck and give it aVF but drop the strike number down to a 2.&nbsp; Grading ancients is a problem.&nbsp; Frank&#039;s example (lot 125) is not as nice but he calls it F+ so I must be overly critical here and will agree with the aVF call.&nbsp; Frank is wont to quote auction realizations when they show how overpriced coins are with his competition.&nbsp; On this he says: <i>(A porous F+ brought $800, Berk 6/10; VF $2800, Kunker 9/09.)&nbsp; </i>Neither of these coins is porous so should be worth more than the Berk but neither is VF and Frank&#039;s sales don&#039;t usually hit European heights so I&#039;s say anything over $1500 is what you are paying for the plastic box.&nbsp; Of course Berk is not known to be cheap so most of us might question that $800 even.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>There is a coin in Frank&#039;s sale I really wanted but when I bid the first week it was already over triple the quoted CNG comparable.&nbsp; His sales are not the automatic bargains they once were.&nbsp; I bid but I don&#039;t win a lot.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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