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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;awmg5668, post: 114075, member: 4995&quot;]<b>Cleaning</b></p><p><br /></p><p>1)&nbsp; The diagonal lines on the obverse imho are lines on the 2x2.&nbsp; 2x2 film is extemely refletive and with only a two dimiensional surface, it is hard to differenciate lines on the coin and lines on teh 2x2.&nbsp;&nbsp; Secondly lines wiped using a cloth/paper towel in my experience, are going in one or two directions, these are going in all directions at closer examination.&nbsp; The angle of light often reflects only one set of lines on the plastic.&nbsp; Also on the outside of the coin if you look closely fine lines of the same sort can be seen.&nbsp; And lastly, ususally lines going in the same direction can be seen on the obverse.&nbsp; None can be seen and the only reason the the plastic did not reflect is because the angle of the light was better.</p><p>2)&nbsp; There is probably no changing your mind on this one but I have seen hundreds upon hundreds of old circulated coins that have not tarnished at all.&nbsp; Coins are not made to tarnish, coins only tarnish when put under the right circumstances.&nbsp; (unfortunately these circumstances are very common) ps. sulfur causes toning on silver, Sulfur is not found everywhere.&nbsp; Sulfur only occurs in high enough concentrations as a result of smoking, etc.&nbsp; therefore not all silver coins have tarnish!</p><p>3)&nbsp; I know what you mean and I see what you mean on this coin.&nbsp; Without it in hand, I couldn&#039;t make a definative decision on whether or not these discolorations are effects of the light or as you said results of cleaning.</p><p>4)&nbsp; No question these spots are remains of humidity/moisture</p><p>5)&nbsp; can&#039;t argue with you there.&nbsp; But i don&#039;t think there is enough evidence to definitively say these coins are cleaned[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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