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<p>[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 7828, member: 57463"]It is true that fewer 13 Libs were made than 43 Bronzes. However, the 1943 Bronze Lincoln Cent is actually a U.S. Mint issue. The 1913 Liberty 5-Cent Nickel is a fantasy piece, a caprice, a hoax, a forgery, a fake, a fraud, a phony... Many of the 1804 Dollars are also after-market creations to satisfy the cupidity of collectors. When the 1804 Dollar Extras were made (two series), "collectors" were not millions of people gushng over Saints and Walkers or tens of millions looking at State Quarters, but about 100 to 1000 gentlemen, mostly in Philadelphia, New York, Boston, and the East Coast generally, with a few more here and there. These people were connected by family and friendship to the officials at the U.S. Mint in Philadelphia who made those coins (and others) for the enjoyment of their social circles. </p><p><br /></p><p>The same situation existed in Russia in the 19th century. Nobles requested of the Mint the creation of certain special pieces to complete (or create) their collections. The Russian word "novodel" (new made) is applied today to the 1804 Dollars and other fantasy issues of the U.S. Mint.</p><p><br /></p><p>All of that being what it may, I echo the fact that the 1849 Double Eagle is unique and still exists.</p><p><br /></p><p>Michael[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kaparthy, post: 7828, member: 57463"]It is true that fewer 13 Libs were made than 43 Bronzes. However, the 1943 Bronze Lincoln Cent is actually a U.S. Mint issue. The 1913 Liberty 5-Cent Nickel is a fantasy piece, a caprice, a hoax, a forgery, a fake, a fraud, a phony... Many of the 1804 Dollars are also after-market creations to satisfy the cupidity of collectors. When the 1804 Dollar Extras were made (two series), "collectors" were not millions of people gushng over Saints and Walkers or tens of millions looking at State Quarters, but about 100 to 1000 gentlemen, mostly in Philadelphia, New York, Boston, and the East Coast generally, with a few more here and there. These people were connected by family and friendship to the officials at the U.S. Mint in Philadelphia who made those coins (and others) for the enjoyment of their social circles. The same situation existed in Russia in the 19th century. Nobles requested of the Mint the creation of certain special pieces to complete (or create) their collections. The Russian word "novodel" (new made) is applied today to the 1804 Dollars and other fantasy issues of the U.S. Mint. All of that being what it may, I echo the fact that the 1849 Double Eagle is unique and still exists. Michael[/QUOTE]
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