Rare Webbing/Planchet Strip

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by JCro57, Nov 30, 2018.

  1. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Don't see many of these too often, and definitely not this large of a section.

    It is copper cent webbing. It is not copper-plated zinc because the plating for those is done after they are punched out. I know PCGS actually will slab webbing sections like this, just not sure if it is too big.

    A cool pick up nonetheless!

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  3. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Joe, I've seen some pcs. in PCGS holders,
    and yet they've 'rejected' a few of mine
    that I submitted.

    Not consistent, but I don't know why.

    When I get them to confirm that they'll slab
    PPS's (Punched Planchet Strips), I'll have to
    submit my 4 pcs. of eight (8) Foot 1943
    Denver Mint Steel Cent Strips (just kidding,
    they don't have an 8 foot holder, I assume!)
     
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  4. SlipperySocks

    SlipperySocks Well-Known Member

  5. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Why wouldn't they re melt all of the webbing down and make more planchet strips?
    Not cost effective?
     
  6. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The webbing was sold as scrap. (The mint no longer has the foundry that would be needed for melting it down and recasting) Usually the firms that produce the strip repurchase the scrap but sometimes some of it gets purchased by others. It used to be they just folded up the webbing, now it gets chopped into bits for closer packing.
     
  7. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Did you pick them up locally to you, Joe? There used to be a place just outside of Buffalo (iirc) that produced these, although I forget the specifics.
     
  8. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    No, this was a guy from Rhode Island that I was referred to. And I'm not familiar with any company from Buffalo that made coin metal, but i wouldn't doubt it at all.
     
  9. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    My guess is Rice could probably give you the details as well, but Lou (Lincoln) used to have pieces (like yours) that came from them and would be able to tell you the whole story. It's been a long time so the details have faded. Tonawanda comes to mind, though.
     
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  10. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Aside question...would it be worth it to have pieces slabbed, by say, ANACS on a special? Wondering because I have about 80 quarter pieces that I would like to sell. All of mine have enough to show a quarter could be placed in each.
     
  11. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    I could be mistaken, but didn't I read on a CT forum/post some time ago, that it is illegal (against the law, not a sick bird :rolleyes:) to possess these?
     
  12. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    No, they are not illegal at all.

    I've been buying, selling, and collecting
    Planchet strips for over 50 years.

    And, I've shown them, both in my office
    and at ANA Conventions, to Mint Police,
    Mint employees, Treasury Officials, etc etc.

    They are fine to own......
     
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  13. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Has anyone ever seen a planchet strip for gold or 90% silver coins?
     
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  14. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    I've seen gold strips at the China Mint back in 1983, and
    at the West Point Mint in 2006 for 1 oz Gold Eagles.

    I don't believe there are any genuine U.S. Mint silver planchet
    strips for any denomination.
     
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  15. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I would imagine the value of the silver would necessitate the melting and reclamation of the metal. The Mint is probably very strict on this.
     
  16. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    The silver and gold strips get recycled and melted, as far as I know.

    As for your pickup, very cool! I've always been fascinated by these.
     
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  17. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    That is so weird that you help authenticate errors for them (PCGS), and then you of all people get your submissions rejected and without a reason.
     
  18. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Not yet they don't...From my limited experience, they will slab anything...
     
  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Back when the mint made silver and gold for circulation, they had their own foundry for melting and recycling the webbing themselves. Once they started getting strip from outside sources it was just easier to sell the scrap back to them. Today the gold and silver planchets are produced by outside firms and they recycle the gold and silver strip because they have to return to the mint the same weight of precious metal planchets that the mint provided to them in bullion.
     
  20. SPP Ottawa

    SPP Ottawa Numismatist

    An older thread, but I recently acquired a Canadian piece of scissel strip for bronze 1c coins, it came from a collector who sourced it from the mint in the 1960s, and I thought I would share it in this thread.

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    I also have a photograph of Canadian silver dollar scissel, which is archived at the Bank of Canada Currency Museum. They let me take a photo of it when I was doing some research there, prior to the pandemic. It used to be in a display, which is why the mounting pegs were soldered on.

    silver_dollar_scissel.jpg
     
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