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<p>[QUOTE="Alegandron, post: 4665921, member: 51347"]I have used the the same scale as my Younger Coin Brother, [USER=14873]@jamesicus[/USER] . <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I kinda understand the concept of Rarity, but it is incredibly subjective to me. I do understand when someone says: This is RARE because it was minted by an Entity that was wiped out, they were very important Historically, they did not make a lot of coins, but then their coins were melted down. We now know there is a small population of "X". Ergo, you have this coin that has a known population of "X".</p><p><br /></p><p>I have some that are "RARE", because of a relatively known population. HOWEVER, does that MATTER to anyone else? I love them due to their significance in History, or what they FEEL to me.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>CAPUA - Hannibal:</b> When Hannibal came through Italia, he promised the Capuan Magistrates that Capua would become the capital of Italia should he destroy Rome. Obviously, the Roman Republic prevailed in the Second Punic War. Since Capua sided with Hannibal, all coins, and anything that Capua created to popularize Hannibal were destroyed, melted down, etc. Makes Capuan coins scarcer from this Era.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload_2019-12-12_20-41-59-png.1036206/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Campania CAPUA AE 14-5mm 216-211 Hera Oscan Grain ear Hannibal capital Italia SNG Fr 517 SNG ANS 219 HN Italy 500 EE Clain Stefanelli</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>PROVENANCE, and the coin is "Kinda Hard to Get"</b></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload_2016-6-25_8-43-41-png.512945/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>Etruria, Populonia</b></p><p>2 ½ asses </p><p>3rd century BCE, </p><p>AR 0.85 g. </p><p>Radiate female head r. (possibly MENRVA); behind, CII. </p><p>Rev. Blank. </p><p>EC 104 (misdescribed, Female head with an Attic helmet). </p><p>Historia Numorum Italy 179.</p><p>Of the highest rarity, apparently <b><i>only the second specimen known</i></b>.</p><p>Dark patina and about very fine</p><p><i><b>From the collection of E.E. Clain-Stefanelli</b></i>.</p><p><br /></p><p>E.E. CLAIN-STEFANELLI DIES</p><p><br /></p><p>ANS Executive Director Ute Wartenburg reported that</p><p>Elvira Eliza Clain-Stefanelli died Oct. 1, 2001 of cardiac</p><p>arrest. Mrs. Stefanelli retired in 2000 as the Senior</p><p>Curator of the National Numismatic Collection in the</p><p>Numismatics Division of the National Museum of</p><p>American History, Smithsonian Institution, Washington,</p><p>DC.</p><p><br /></p><p>She was at the Smithsonian for forty years, and was</p><p>responsible with her husband Vladimir for organizing and</p><p>building up the National Numismatic Collection. She</p><p>survived a Nazi concentration camp in WWII Europe,</p><p>moved to Rome, and learned numismatics there. In New</p><p>York she and her husband worked for Stack's and started</p><p>the Coin Galleries division there.</p><p><br /></p><p>Her most recent publication was "Life In Republican Rome</p><p>On its Coinage", a lavishly illustrated discussion of the</p><p>themes which appear on the coinage of the Roman Republic,</p><p>published in 1999. Her major contribution to the science of</p><p>numismatic literature was her classic "Numismatic Bibliography",</p><p>published in 1985.</p><p>Elvira E. Clain-Stefanelli (1914-2001) and her husband Dr. Vladimir Clain-Stefanelli (1914-1982) were academic numismatic historians and later numismatic authors and curators. They pursued their interest in ancient coinage of the Black Sea region and U.S. medals as a team, serving together as members of the American Numismatic Society and numerous other national and international numismatic organizations. Vladimir became an ANS Associate in 1951 and a Fellow in 1957; Elvira became a Fellow in 1963. The two were frequent visitors to the Society when they worked for Hesperia Art Galleries and then Stack’s in the 1950s. In 1956 Vladimir became curator of the Smithsonian's Division of Numismatics; a year later, Elvira joined him as Assistant Curator. Together, they built the National Numismatic Collection from approximately 60,000 specimens in 1956 to almost one million objects. Two years after Vladimir's death in 1982, Elvira became the department's first executive director, holding that position until her retirement in 2000.</p><p>Dr. Vladimir Clain-Stefanelli (born Waldemar Günther Klein, but later changing the spelling of his surname to Clain and adding Stefanelli, his mother's maiden name) was born in Czernowitz, Bukovina, Austria (now part of the Ukraine and Romania). Vladimir was initially a well-known specialist of Eastern European coinage, in particular of his native Romania. He also specialized in historical documentation of United States coinages as well as coinages of Greek colonies and southeast European issues of the 15th and 16th centuries. Vladimir received a B.A. and M.A. in 1936, and Ph.D. in 1938 from the University of King Carol II in Austria. His 1938 doctoral dissertation, concerning the ancient coinage of Callatis, is included in the collection. Vladimir married the former Elvira Eliza Olinescu on January 3, 1939. After WW II, the couple moved to Italy where they worked for the P&P Santamaria firm. They moved to the United States in 1951, where they would live out the remainder of their lives.</p><p>Elvira E. Clain-Stefanelli was born in Bucharest, Romania. She received a degree in history from Franz Josef University in 1936 and later an M.A. in history from the University of Cernauti in Romania. Working with her husband after his appointment as manager of Stack's Coin Galleries subsidiary in 1954, Elvira wrote their first sales catalog. She joined the Smithsonian staff in 1957. In 1973 Elvira, along with her husband, received the Smithsonian Gold Medal for Exceptional Service. In 1996, she received the ANA's Farran Zerbe Memorial Award for Distinguished Service. During her numismatic career, Elvira was advisor to the U.S. Mint, the Department of Treasury, and many boards, committees, and associations.</p><p>Together or separately, Elvira and Vladimir Clain-Stefanelli wrote and published many important works including: Monetary history and medallic art at the Smithsonian Institution, Washington, D.C (Numisma, año) (1965); History of the National Numismatic Collections (1968); La monnaie: trésor d’art (1971); Medals Commemorating Battles of the American Revolution (1973); The Beauty and Lore of Coins Currency and Medals (1974); Chartered for Progress, Two Centuries of American Banking: A Pictorial Essay(1975); Muenzen der Neuzeit (1978); Numismatic Bibliography (1984); Life in Republican Rome (1999).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Alegandron, post: 4665921, member: 51347"]I have used the the same scale as my Younger Coin Brother, [USER=14873]@jamesicus[/USER] . :) I kinda understand the concept of Rarity, but it is incredibly subjective to me. I do understand when someone says: This is RARE because it was minted by an Entity that was wiped out, they were very important Historically, they did not make a lot of coins, but then their coins were melted down. We now know there is a small population of "X". Ergo, you have this coin that has a known population of "X". I have some that are "RARE", because of a relatively known population. HOWEVER, does that MATTER to anyone else? I love them due to their significance in History, or what they FEEL to me. [B]CAPUA - Hannibal:[/B] When Hannibal came through Italia, he promised the Capuan Magistrates that Capua would become the capital of Italia should he destroy Rome. Obviously, the Roman Republic prevailed in the Second Punic War. Since Capua sided with Hannibal, all coins, and anything that Capua created to popularize Hannibal were destroyed, melted down, etc. Makes Capuan coins scarcer from this Era. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload_2019-12-12_20-41-59-png.1036206/[/IMG] Campania CAPUA AE 14-5mm 216-211 Hera Oscan Grain ear Hannibal capital Italia SNG Fr 517 SNG ANS 219 HN Italy 500 EE Clain Stefanelli [B]PROVENANCE, and the coin is "Kinda Hard to Get"[/B] [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload_2016-6-25_8-43-41-png.512945/[/IMG] [B]Etruria, Populonia[/B] 2 ½ asses 3rd century BCE, AR 0.85 g. Radiate female head r. (possibly MENRVA); behind, CII. Rev. Blank. EC 104 (misdescribed, Female head with an Attic helmet). Historia Numorum Italy 179. Of the highest rarity, apparently [B][I]only the second specimen known[/I][/B]. Dark patina and about very fine [I][B]From the collection of E.E. Clain-Stefanelli[/B][/I]. E.E. CLAIN-STEFANELLI DIES ANS Executive Director Ute Wartenburg reported that Elvira Eliza Clain-Stefanelli died Oct. 1, 2001 of cardiac arrest. Mrs. Stefanelli retired in 2000 as the Senior Curator of the National Numismatic Collection in the Numismatics Division of the National Museum of American History, Smithsonian Institution, Washington, DC. She was at the Smithsonian for forty years, and was responsible with her husband Vladimir for organizing and building up the National Numismatic Collection. She survived a Nazi concentration camp in WWII Europe, moved to Rome, and learned numismatics there. In New York she and her husband worked for Stack's and started the Coin Galleries division there. Her most recent publication was "Life In Republican Rome On its Coinage", a lavishly illustrated discussion of the themes which appear on the coinage of the Roman Republic, published in 1999. Her major contribution to the science of numismatic literature was her classic "Numismatic Bibliography", published in 1985. Elvira E. Clain-Stefanelli (1914-2001) and her husband Dr. Vladimir Clain-Stefanelli (1914-1982) were academic numismatic historians and later numismatic authors and curators. They pursued their interest in ancient coinage of the Black Sea region and U.S. medals as a team, serving together as members of the American Numismatic Society and numerous other national and international numismatic organizations. Vladimir became an ANS Associate in 1951 and a Fellow in 1957; Elvira became a Fellow in 1963. The two were frequent visitors to the Society when they worked for Hesperia Art Galleries and then Stack’s in the 1950s. In 1956 Vladimir became curator of the Smithsonian's Division of Numismatics; a year later, Elvira joined him as Assistant Curator. Together, they built the National Numismatic Collection from approximately 60,000 specimens in 1956 to almost one million objects. Two years after Vladimir's death in 1982, Elvira became the department's first executive director, holding that position until her retirement in 2000. Dr. Vladimir Clain-Stefanelli (born Waldemar Günther Klein, but later changing the spelling of his surname to Clain and adding Stefanelli, his mother's maiden name) was born in Czernowitz, Bukovina, Austria (now part of the Ukraine and Romania). Vladimir was initially a well-known specialist of Eastern European coinage, in particular of his native Romania. He also specialized in historical documentation of United States coinages as well as coinages of Greek colonies and southeast European issues of the 15th and 16th centuries. Vladimir received a B.A. and M.A. in 1936, and Ph.D. in 1938 from the University of King Carol II in Austria. His 1938 doctoral dissertation, concerning the ancient coinage of Callatis, is included in the collection. Vladimir married the former Elvira Eliza Olinescu on January 3, 1939. After WW II, the couple moved to Italy where they worked for the P&P Santamaria firm. They moved to the United States in 1951, where they would live out the remainder of their lives. Elvira E. Clain-Stefanelli was born in Bucharest, Romania. She received a degree in history from Franz Josef University in 1936 and later an M.A. in history from the University of Cernauti in Romania. Working with her husband after his appointment as manager of Stack's Coin Galleries subsidiary in 1954, Elvira wrote their first sales catalog. She joined the Smithsonian staff in 1957. In 1973 Elvira, along with her husband, received the Smithsonian Gold Medal for Exceptional Service. In 1996, she received the ANA's Farran Zerbe Memorial Award for Distinguished Service. During her numismatic career, Elvira was advisor to the U.S. Mint, the Department of Treasury, and many boards, committees, and associations. Together or separately, Elvira and Vladimir Clain-Stefanelli wrote and published many important works including: Monetary history and medallic art at the Smithsonian Institution, Washington, D.C (Numisma, año) (1965); History of the National Numismatic Collections (1968); La monnaie: trésor d’art (1971); Medals Commemorating Battles of the American Revolution (1973); The Beauty and Lore of Coins Currency and Medals (1974); Chartered for Progress, Two Centuries of American Banking: A Pictorial Essay(1975); Muenzen der Neuzeit (1978); Numismatic Bibliography (1984); Life in Republican Rome (1999).[/QUOTE]
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