rupee i have been collecting indian coin for 20+ years no TPG worth its salt will attribute anything that you write on the coins. you might be experienced with NNC. but PCGS and NGC dont play that game. in fact PCGS has even corrected KM where it has got it wrong. I have indian head as well as english head what i was trying to say is the die pairings that you are talking about do not exist. just as an FYI no one looks at the cheek to see whether the head is indian or not its the nose. The dealer for this particular coin is one the best in the market. The coin world operates on trust and professionalism here in the USA. People who dont take the time to research their coins dont stay on top of the dealer pole very long the same goes for TPG's
spock, even the most experienced people make mistakes. I compared the coin picture side by side with both and Indian and English heads and only then came to this conclusion. I actually said compare chin and not cheek. Check out Pridmore # 52 which is closet to your coin if this indeed is 35 berries. We can check this out when you provide us with further diagnostics to pin point the variety. Krause or Pridmore do not have all existing varieties and you should know this if you are a serious collector! See comparison pictures attached. If you still are not convinced then I cannot say anything.
A beautiful coin. Congratulations! It doesn't look like an Indian head. And looks like the reverse has 34 berries instead of 35. So, you may have a 457.12 (a much rarer variety then 457.10). Regards, Ballabh Garg
The coin in OP definitely doesn't have an Indian chin. Spock, only a high resolution image will make sure if it has 34 or 35 berries on reverse. If it it doesn't has an extra berry next to one, it won't qalify for 457.10 Regards, Ballabh Garg
There might be a 35th berry (which might be weakly stuck near "ONE") but spock would confirm that with the coin in hand. I do not see the "M" on the left ribbon though. These all can be confirmed by spock. What do you now say spock? Well the slab is always right!
no no no no !!!!!!!!!!!!! i already have a handful of them bought at 30$ a pop. what a waste i knew being away from KM and buying coins would get me into trouble even if it is a deal
Ballabh, I cant take pics that can distinguish between a IHC and a VDB capturing berries is out of the question but i will look at the coin and tell you. I agree if the berry is not there then i am screwed ( although 457.12 is much more expensive coin) i am still screwed
Hey if there is a berry then it is. otheriwse i end up with a few extra bucks (457.12) and no 457.10 so spock always wins
I was actually referring to 457.12 having small M on the left ribbon end. Krause does not say it but I think it is also Indian head. (not sure about this one though) If you did not pay an insane price for the coin you should be okay!
doesnt matter what i paid i can always return it. But i will be surprised if its not a great deal really surprised
Ballabh, no its not 457.12 it has a crescent. do you have a resolution pic of the 35 berry next to the one. The toning here is such that i am seeing two berries next the one one inside the O and the next one just to the left of it almost touching it. Let me know. Thanks.
ok here are the specs for the coin obverse Ridges on Ribbon- yes Initials on bust- none Point of Bust- 1mm Lock of Hair- yes Head Type - English? by these features this becomes a G Berries in wreath 34-19L;15R bead by ONE Leaf group Leaves Privy Mark - i am seeing M on the ribbon (faint)? otherwise thereis no privy mark if i am seeing it wrong this privy mark has me bogged down Date Digits small now to the best of my knowledge it might be 457.12 but if there is no M then its not 457.12? a new variety. If this turns out to be 457.12 then my theory of TPG's giving us the short end of the stick will be proven again ( speedy you can relax now)
good lord no. this is the coin from hell. Ballabh for the love of god please come down here and finish of the matter 457.10 or 457.12
