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<p>[QUOTE="Marshall, post: 7963965, member: 21705"]There are obvious holes in the story. It doesn't mean the coins aren't real, but suspicions are raised immediately.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now if the coins are real, why make up the backstory? Were they stolen? Maybe and maybe not. But THAT tin was not on a shelf for more than 80 years. Were they meticulously brushed and cared for by generations prior to he or his father? Maybe.</p><p><br /></p><p>But that's why the suspicions.</p><p><br /></p><p>But I must say it is convenient for them to suddenly appear in such pristine condition within 5-10 years of a barrage of high quality transfer die counterfeits in better known series. So good that TPGs have trouble identifying them as counterfeit.</p><p><br /></p><p>It would be even harder if they had a source for rare mother coins and chose to not make multiple copies. Common die dings is a way of catching them now, but limiting the number of strikes would make detection even more difficult. Is a ding on the original die or the tranfer die? Without a sufficient number to compare, it's just harder to tell.</p><p><br /></p><p>The higher end counterfeiters are also aware of the alloys used on the originals and are often within mint tolerances in weight and metal content.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marshall, post: 7963965, member: 21705"]There are obvious holes in the story. It doesn't mean the coins aren't real, but suspicions are raised immediately. Now if the coins are real, why make up the backstory? Were they stolen? Maybe and maybe not. But THAT tin was not on a shelf for more than 80 years. Were they meticulously brushed and cared for by generations prior to he or his father? Maybe. But that's why the suspicions. But I must say it is convenient for them to suddenly appear in such pristine condition within 5-10 years of a barrage of high quality transfer die counterfeits in better known series. So good that TPGs have trouble identifying them as counterfeit. It would be even harder if they had a source for rare mother coins and chose to not make multiple copies. Common die dings is a way of catching them now, but limiting the number of strikes would make detection even more difficult. Is a ding on the original die or the tranfer die? Without a sufficient number to compare, it's just harder to tell. The higher end counterfeiters are also aware of the alloys used on the originals and are often within mint tolerances in weight and metal content.[/QUOTE]
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