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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Vicbg, post: 106366, member: 1861&quot;]Thanks Ian,</p><p><br /></p><p>That was of real help regarding 1st one... I&#039;ve just found out the same Massa di Lunigiana piece auctioned today at the Swiss Numismatica Ars Classica and they state there are less than 5 pieces known... Also the quality of theirs is just slightly better than mine and they described it as XF for such rare coin... Anyhow, it needs more research.</p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding 2nd piece the last word ends on AS and there is a very faint letter before it that that looks like an M and is 100% not Utrecht as the Utrecht pieces start with TRA... Both coins came from same place, so I&#039;m keen on thinking its also a later 1679 Massa di Lunigiana tallero, but then again I&#039;m not completely sure.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks again.</p><p>Vic.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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