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<p>[QUOTE="thejewk, post: 5412580, member: 100136"]In one of my recent threads I mused about a recent acquisition, a selection of 22 'barbarous radiates', most of them from the period just before Carausius' arrival in Britannia, and how tiny little slips of metal 5mm in diameter could serve as coinage. With Carausius' arrival, it became difficult to distinguish between what is and is not official, with style and quality of engraving varying wildly until mint marks started to appear on the coinage. From then on, up until the time when Constantine issued his VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP series, suspected to be an attempt to introduce a new denomination with a fractionally higher silver content, imitative and unofficial coinage in Britannia seems to have played a far smaller role in the economy.</p><p><br /></p><p>Today I received the following:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1234575[/ATTACH]</p><p>IMP C DIOCLETIANVS AG</p><p>GENIO POPV-LI ROMANI</p><p>7.86g, 25.5mm</p><p>Imitation of London Nummus</p><p>Found C.2010 near St Albans</p><p>Copying LMCC 2.01.X such as:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1234577[/ATTACH]</p><p>LMCC 2.01.003, RIC 6A and 16A</p><p>IMP C DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG</p><p>Laureate and cuirassed bust right</p><p>GENIO POPV – LI ROMANI</p><p>Genius standing left, modius on head, naked but for cloak (chlamys) over left shoulder, right hand holding a patera, left cornucopiae</p><p>-/-//- London Mint</p><p>9.73g, 28.5mm</p><p>Unreduced nummi</p><p>296-303 AD</p><p><br /></p><p>Unofficial coinage from this era is quite rare, and this is the first coin I've seen for sale imitating coinage of the First Tetrarchy produced at London.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the scheme of things, and as far as imitations go, I don't think it's too bad. Although clumsy, the portrait and figure of Genius might have passed at a glance, if it wasn't for the slightly light weight, smaller diameter, and totally blundered obverse legend. My favourite is the falling over I in DIOCL, the drunken S towards the end, and the defeated AG when they realised that they couldn't fit the necessary PF AVG.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lee Toone and High Cloke were kind enough to confirm it's status earlier today, and I am very happy to add another interesting item to my collection.</p><p><br /></p><p>For other examples of contemporaneous unofficial coins, have a look at [USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER] 's excellent page:</p><p><a href="http://augustuscoins.com/ed/imit/imittetrarchy.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://augustuscoins.com/ed/imit/imittetrarchy.html" rel="nofollow">http://augustuscoins.com/ed/imit/imittetrarchy.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Please share any unofficial coins from your collection, or anything else you find appropriate.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="thejewk, post: 5412580, member: 100136"]In one of my recent threads I mused about a recent acquisition, a selection of 22 'barbarous radiates', most of them from the period just before Carausius' arrival in Britannia, and how tiny little slips of metal 5mm in diameter could serve as coinage. With Carausius' arrival, it became difficult to distinguish between what is and is not official, with style and quality of engraving varying wildly until mint marks started to appear on the coinage. From then on, up until the time when Constantine issued his VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP series, suspected to be an attempt to introduce a new denomination with a fractionally higher silver content, imitative and unofficial coinage in Britannia seems to have played a far smaller role in the economy. Today I received the following: [ATTACH=full]1234575[/ATTACH] IMP C DIOCLETIANVS AG GENIO POPV-LI ROMANI 7.86g, 25.5mm Imitation of London Nummus Found C.2010 near St Albans Copying LMCC 2.01.X such as: [ATTACH=full]1234577[/ATTACH] LMCC 2.01.003, RIC 6A and 16A IMP C DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG Laureate and cuirassed bust right GENIO POPV – LI ROMANI Genius standing left, modius on head, naked but for cloak (chlamys) over left shoulder, right hand holding a patera, left cornucopiae -/-//- London Mint 9.73g, 28.5mm Unreduced nummi 296-303 AD Unofficial coinage from this era is quite rare, and this is the first coin I've seen for sale imitating coinage of the First Tetrarchy produced at London. In the scheme of things, and as far as imitations go, I don't think it's too bad. Although clumsy, the portrait and figure of Genius might have passed at a glance, if it wasn't for the slightly light weight, smaller diameter, and totally blundered obverse legend. My favourite is the falling over I in DIOCL, the drunken S towards the end, and the defeated AG when they realised that they couldn't fit the necessary PF AVG. Lee Toone and High Cloke were kind enough to confirm it's status earlier today, and I am very happy to add another interesting item to my collection. For other examples of contemporaneous unofficial coins, have a look at [USER=44316]@Valentinian[/USER] 's excellent page: [URL]http://augustuscoins.com/ed/imit/imittetrarchy.html[/URL] Please share any unofficial coins from your collection, or anything else you find appropriate.[/QUOTE]
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