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<p>[QUOTE="Blake Davis, post: 4015679, member: 91820"]————————————————-</p><p><br /></p><p>I had thought that this bust type was not overly rare - scarce yes. I have been collecting sestertii of Septimius for quite some time now and have seven examples of this bust type - of which I have posted two of the ones in nicer condition, including an IMP III of the Moneta type. One of these has an interesting double strike that is shown around 6 o’clock on the reverse. I have been unable to find another example of this reverse die.</p><p><br /></p><p>As a complete aside one thing that has been puzzled me is the scarcity of high grade sestertii of Septimius- I had assumed this was due to the lower relief of his earlier coins - but I could be wrong. I believe that the coins of Commodus in the last couple of years were rather poorly done and perhaps Septimius got some of that - but only as to relief - in other respects his sestertii are quite beautiful. And relief does not equal beauty - I had some high relief sestertii of Severus Alexander that were poorly executed. Should have saved them for illustration.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have also posted a very rare bust type of RIC 677 - Anonna. This bust type, is more common under Elagabalus.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have only seen in one other example of this bust type on a sestertius - on another RIC 677 I have also seen this type on medallions of Septimius. Why? This is one of those bizarre issues for which you do not have a clear answer until a clever numismatist figures it out or at least posits something credible. And this is one of the reasons why collecting ancient coins is so great - I paid maybe $40 for this coin for which there are probably only a handful of examples known with this type of obverse - but that doesn’t make it much more valuable (that is the nature of this hobby) but its rarity may be indicative of an unknown historic fact for which an answer may be found by a smart collector - who is also a student of history - since in order to fully enjoy this hobby you should also love history. Otherwise collecting these items is a barren occupation indeed.</p><p><br /></p><p>Not the most articulate post but I think the idea comes across- wish I had more time to post but work has been interfering with my time for the “hobby.”</p><p><br /></p><p>One more question - has anyone ever seen an ”Aequitas” reverse for Septimius on a sestertius? There are three types that I am looking for Septimius: Septimius alone on a horse (did he strike another Profectio type?), Liberalitas platform scene for two dates, and Aequitas (and while I am at it, the IMP X missing from my collection - I have only three). There are many rarities among the sestertii of Septimius but these are now at the top of my list. I had a chance at the Platform type but didn’t bid enough, and then the purchaser doubled the price. Se la vie. It’s a lifetime project.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Blake Davis, post: 4015679, member: 91820"]————————————————- I had thought that this bust type was not overly rare - scarce yes. I have been collecting sestertii of Septimius for quite some time now and have seven examples of this bust type - of which I have posted two of the ones in nicer condition, including an IMP III of the Moneta type. One of these has an interesting double strike that is shown around 6 o’clock on the reverse. I have been unable to find another example of this reverse die. As a complete aside one thing that has been puzzled me is the scarcity of high grade sestertii of Septimius- I had assumed this was due to the lower relief of his earlier coins - but I could be wrong. I believe that the coins of Commodus in the last couple of years were rather poorly done and perhaps Septimius got some of that - but only as to relief - in other respects his sestertii are quite beautiful. And relief does not equal beauty - I had some high relief sestertii of Severus Alexander that were poorly executed. Should have saved them for illustration. I have also posted a very rare bust type of RIC 677 - Anonna. This bust type, is more common under Elagabalus. I have only seen in one other example of this bust type on a sestertius - on another RIC 677 I have also seen this type on medallions of Septimius. Why? This is one of those bizarre issues for which you do not have a clear answer until a clever numismatist figures it out or at least posits something credible. And this is one of the reasons why collecting ancient coins is so great - I paid maybe $40 for this coin for which there are probably only a handful of examples known with this type of obverse - but that doesn’t make it much more valuable (that is the nature of this hobby) but its rarity may be indicative of an unknown historic fact for which an answer may be found by a smart collector - who is also a student of history - since in order to fully enjoy this hobby you should also love history. Otherwise collecting these items is a barren occupation indeed. Not the most articulate post but I think the idea comes across- wish I had more time to post but work has been interfering with my time for the “hobby.” One more question - has anyone ever seen an ”Aequitas” reverse for Septimius on a sestertius? There are three types that I am looking for Septimius: Septimius alone on a horse (did he strike another Profectio type?), Liberalitas platform scene for two dates, and Aequitas (and while I am at it, the IMP X missing from my collection - I have only three). There are many rarities among the sestertii of Septimius but these are now at the top of my list. I had a chance at the Platform type but didn’t bid enough, and then the purchaser doubled the price. Se la vie. It’s a lifetime project.[/QUOTE]
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