Rare “X” Canceled State Quarter Die?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by HammeredCoin, Oct 25, 2020.

  1. HammeredCoin

    HammeredCoin Active Member

    Hello everyone! While I don’t frequent these forums very much, I wanted to reach out and see if anyone else has an example of one of the State Quarter dies that were sold by the US mint that is quite like mine.

    I have collected several examples from different States and as most of you know, the face of the dies are completely ground down, showing no detail whatsoever.

    However, I was lucky enough to find this. It is a die that has been cancelled with an “X” (and looks like colored with a sharpie or something) but the vast majority of the detail remains. This is very similar to the cancelled Olympic coin dies that are floating around.

    Has anyone else come across one of these dies that has not been fully cancelled out?

    Thanks! 541495CB-DB42-4050-B3C2-A1B20A8AE97B.jpeg
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  3. CoinNationalist

    CoinNationalist New Member

    Did it come with a Certificate of Authenticity?
  4. HammeredCoin

    HammeredCoin Active Member

    Yes and it matches the number on the die
  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It's cool that the mint allowed these to go out to the public.
  6. Dima

    Dima Member

    I remember seeing these dies on sale from the US Mint (back in '99-'02?), but if I recall correctly, they were shaved down such that there was no remain of the coin -- presumably to deter/prevent counterfeits. Never seen one with an X like this...
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  7. JeffC

    JeffC Go explore something and think a happy thought!

    Does the first character "P" in the (I presume) serial number mean it's a die from the Philadelphia Mint?
  8. igotchange

    igotchange Active Member

    Very cool pic.wonder if i can find a chuck e cheese die.what does a piece like that go for?
  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I've never seen or even heard of one cancelled in this fashion.

    Yes it does, and if you blow up the image you will also see it has a P mintmark.
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  10. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    The Olympic 1995-96 dies were cancelled with an "X" like this.

    I believe @Conder101 was only referring to the circulating coin dies sold by the mint after the Olympic dies, when he posted that he had never seen once canceled like this. I also recall that these dies were defaced by grinding most/all of the surface so the type was unidentifiable.
  11. Jersey magic man

    Jersey magic man Supporter! Supporter

    Keep an eye out for “error” coins that could be altered using these dies. I wish the mint would Continue to completely deface the die so fake error coins could not be produced.
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  12. HammeredCoin

    HammeredCoin Active Member

    That's the thing, I think this was a mistake by the Philadelphia Mint, letting this die out without the face being completely removed. All of the other examples of these dies from the State Quarters I have see have had the face completely ground smooth.

    My guess is, when preparing the dies for final defacement, they place the "X" on the face as it waits for final removal. This die somehow missed the final step of getting completely defaced and was sent out with all of the other dies.
  13. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    I don't understand the desire to own an expired defaced die in the first place. To each his own! Good conversation post though, thank you.
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  14. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Can we see the COI?
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's not a mistake, they were as common as dirt for years. In point of fact, the mint has canceled dies in a similar manner for as long as the mint has existed. These for example -

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  16. KSorbo

    KSorbo Well-Known Member

    I know I’ve seen the x cancelled modern dies somewhere. Pretty neat, but the Carson City die would surpass most everything in coolness.
  17. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    My LCS had a couple of dime dies with the X a couple of years ago. At $30+/-, I should've bought them, but didn't. :banghead:
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I once had the opportunity to buy an uncanceled Morgan obv die. But it was $11,000, more than I had in my pocket - thank god !

    But I do have a picture of it buried in some old files someplace. :)
  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Yes, I was referring to the Circulation dies, specifically the state quarter dies. I have seen three types of cancellation on modern dies, 1968 proof dies that had their faces "Puddled" with a torch, the Olympic commemorative dies that were canceled by the X ground into the face, and the state quarter and a few other dies that had their entire face ground off. I have never seen a state quarter die defaced with an X like that.
  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I have, both in person and on the mint's website back then, as well as many, many, after market sales. I considered buying some from the mint myself. I also seem to recall these SQ X canceled dies being posted about quite a few times on the forum over the years. I'll check and see what a search brings up.
  21. Scuba4fun777

    Scuba4fun777 Well-Known Member

    I’m confident they are legit. At a coin show a few (3-7?) years ago, Ken Potter had at least one and possibly a matching pair of dies canceled in same way. I don’t recall the specific denomination or year, but they were from the US Mint.
    For those not familiar with Ken Potter, use your favorite search engine and include “numismatic” in your query.
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