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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 406349, member: 15309"]I don't necessarily use that grading system when purchasing toned coins, I go more by instinct based upon years of experience. However, I think the proposed grading system is consistent with the methodology that most rainbow toned collectors use to purchase coins.</p><p> </p><p>Unlike wear which has very defined grades and rules, grading toning is highly subjective and completely at the discretion of the buyer. As I stated in my previous posts, it is completely reasonable for two different toned coin collectors to assign a totally different toning grade for the same coin based on their own individual preferences. I think that this process would probably drive a person with a meticulous nature almost insane. The best comparison I can make in the collector world would be rare art. Not every impressionist collector is a huge fan of Monet, but they are still able to recognize the monster when they see it.</p><p><br /></p><p>As with all areas of life, there really is no substitute for experience. I would not advocate a novice collector of rainbow toned coins paying 10X bid for any coin. They would be better served by starting their collection in the 2X-5X range until they can better appreciate the subtleties of toned coins. However, this is a case of do what I say not what I do, because the first rainbow toned coin I purchased was based upon a horrible Heritage scan and I paid over 7X bid. Here is the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Morgan%20Dollars/MorganDollar1886NGCMS65-1.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/MorganDollar1886NGCMS65ObverseScan.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is really the purpose of my post. Trust me that I am not trying to convert everyone into rainbow toned collectors as this will only make it more difficult for me to attain these coins (increased demand). Rather, I am trying to provide information to collectors for the reasons why rainbow toned collectors pay the premiums they do. I see many collectors chastise the purchasing habits of the rainbow toned collectors without a full understand (sometimes no understanding) of the rainbow toned coin market. For all intensive purposes, price guides don't exist for common date rainbow toned coins. Imagine collecting coins without a price guide. My contention is that most collectors can't imagine purchasing a coin without a source of information regarding the coin's value. This is the situation that every rainbow toned collector faces with every purchase, and there is a very real fear that you will pay 5X bid when everybody else would only pay 2X bid. Collecting rainbow toned coins takes courage and confidence, and a little bit of gamble doesn't hurt. I am a gambler by nature (poker player) so it only seems appropriate that I ended up in the gambling end of the numismatic pool.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 406349, member: 15309"]I don't necessarily use that grading system when purchasing toned coins, I go more by instinct based upon years of experience. However, I think the proposed grading system is consistent with the methodology that most rainbow toned collectors use to purchase coins. Unlike wear which has very defined grades and rules, grading toning is highly subjective and completely at the discretion of the buyer. As I stated in my previous posts, it is completely reasonable for two different toned coin collectors to assign a totally different toning grade for the same coin based on their own individual preferences. I think that this process would probably drive a person with a meticulous nature almost insane. The best comparison I can make in the collector world would be rare art. Not every impressionist collector is a huge fan of Monet, but they are still able to recognize the monster when they see it. As with all areas of life, there really is no substitute for experience. I would not advocate a novice collector of rainbow toned coins paying 10X bid for any coin. They would be better served by starting their collection in the 2X-5X range until they can better appreciate the subtleties of toned coins. However, this is a case of do what I say not what I do, because the first rainbow toned coin I purchased was based upon a horrible Heritage scan and I paid over 7X bid. Here is the coin. [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Morgan%20Dollars/MorganDollar1886NGCMS65-1.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/MorganDollar1886NGCMS65ObverseScan.jpg[/IMG] This is really the purpose of my post. Trust me that I am not trying to convert everyone into rainbow toned collectors as this will only make it more difficult for me to attain these coins (increased demand). Rather, I am trying to provide information to collectors for the reasons why rainbow toned collectors pay the premiums they do. I see many collectors chastise the purchasing habits of the rainbow toned collectors without a full understand (sometimes no understanding) of the rainbow toned coin market. For all intensive purposes, price guides don't exist for common date rainbow toned coins. Imagine collecting coins without a price guide. My contention is that most collectors can't imagine purchasing a coin without a source of information regarding the coin's value. This is the situation that every rainbow toned collector faces with every purchase, and there is a very real fear that you will pay 5X bid when everybody else would only pay 2X bid. Collecting rainbow toned coins takes courage and confidence, and a little bit of gamble doesn't hurt. I am a gambler by nature (poker player) so it only seems appropriate that I ended up in the gambling end of the numismatic pool.[/QUOTE]
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