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<p>[QUOTE="CamaroDMD, post: 606165, member: 5233"]I disagree. But I think the definition of AT is different to everyone. I would define AT as physically altering the surface of the coin with the use of chemicals or heat. But, if I put a coin in an envelope for a year on a window sill...is that AT? To me it's not. That coin toned naturally. Is album toning natural or AT...someone put that coin in the album. Is selling that coin as NT OK? I mean...human's made those canvas bags and placed the Morgan Dollars in them. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I don't think anyone here disagrees that altering a coin's surface to deceive the buyer and gain a profit from that deception is wrong. But, be that as it may...we can still appreciate the beauty of the coin. Those are two completely separate discussions that are being combined here.</p><p><br /></p><p>Do the TPGs get these wrong sometimes...of course. They get other things wrong too but I would imagine the toning issue is probably their greatest problem. There is just too many variables in toning, even the best experts in the world might get them wrong. It has already been shown that PCGS policy is basically "when in doubt don't slab." That means they can't confirm it as NT not that it isn't. That's just the nature of toning.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="CamaroDMD, post: 606165, member: 5233"]I disagree. But I think the definition of AT is different to everyone. I would define AT as physically altering the surface of the coin with the use of chemicals or heat. But, if I put a coin in an envelope for a year on a window sill...is that AT? To me it's not. That coin toned naturally. Is album toning natural or AT...someone put that coin in the album. Is selling that coin as NT OK? I mean...human's made those canvas bags and placed the Morgan Dollars in them. ;) I don't think anyone here disagrees that altering a coin's surface to deceive the buyer and gain a profit from that deception is wrong. But, be that as it may...we can still appreciate the beauty of the coin. Those are two completely separate discussions that are being combined here. Do the TPGs get these wrong sometimes...of course. They get other things wrong too but I would imagine the toning issue is probably their greatest problem. There is just too many variables in toning, even the best experts in the world might get them wrong. It has already been shown that PCGS policy is basically "when in doubt don't slab." That means they can't confirm it as NT not that it isn't. That's just the nature of toning.[/QUOTE]
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