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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 20862317, member: 24314&quot;]masterswimmer, posted: &quot;<b><font size="6"><span style="color: #b30000">I would have thought you might &#039;instruct&#039; your viewing audience to just read your opening post without reading any subsequent responses </span></font></b>before replying with their own educated or uneducated responses. This way everyone, beginner thru expert can &#039;safely&#039; reply without being castigated publicly. I am incredibly far from an error or variety expert. Therefore I feel comfortable postulating my guess as a beginner.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #ff0000">Spoiler Alert</span></b>: if you do not want to see my uneducated guess to the OP&#039;s quiz close your eyes and scroll past the remainder of this post.</p><p><br /></p><p>I believe the first picture is showing a rim cud.</p><p><br /></p><p>The second picture has this beginner a bit more flummoxed. I think it has something to do with the upsetting part of the minting process.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>These are not correct.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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