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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 3565556, member: 19463&quot;]I recall discussions at the ancient coin club 30 years ago over the question of what I recall being called &#039;for these&#039; grading.&nbsp; Older members did not approve of coins being upgraded to &#039;VF for these&#039; just because 90% of the known examples were worse than terrible and this one was a bit better. Before that time we saw coins described as Good because they were worn but some dealers never listed a coin they could not call VF.&nbsp; That was when many of us stopped paying any attention to grades other than the five Barry listed above for his surface numbers. </p><p><br /></p><p>If we Almost Certainly or Never would buy a test cut coin, I guess we should have melted all the Asyut hoard cut coins. (I would have taken them as a group at melt price.)&nbsp; I know several rare coins that I have not seen better than fine or with what I would classify 3/5 surface. If there are only five known, is it really necessary that one be a assigned 5/5?&nbsp; Are 20 of the known EID MAR denarii really 5/5?&nbsp; Maybe so, I have seen some 1/5 examples.&nbsp; I have not seen enough of any coin to have an opinion worth hearing so I will now drop back to Forvm rules and shut up.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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