Quiz - Chronology

6 is the trick question because it looks like it should be much older - nice little bit of sneakiness. Also, Aretas IV comes long before Numerian.

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As far as the logic used to come to my original answer:
I know from AN and others that #3 is super old. I think there may even be evidence that these types are older than the earliest Lydian coinage. #7 is electrum and just from looking at coins I was pretty sure that was 5th century or older. 2 was struck during the Roman Republic, 5 during the empire and 4 in Medieval England and I was pretty sure that the date was roughly ca. 1000 BC for 4, making that chronology easy enough. #8 I honestly had no idea except that it was sometime after 600 AD. 1 and 6 were just a shot in the dark as I know absolutely nothing at all about these types.

 

... ummm, is the string cheese for your kids, or are you addicted to the fun?

=> by the way, even though TIF said game-over ... I still think that I'm all over this one!! (ehhh, just talkin' tough => I didn't peek in the back of the book for the answers like the Coin-Princess did!!)

 

I'm amazed we come as close as we do considering not having the slightest idea what some of the coins are. In my case it was coin #1 which is in a field I don't collect but vaguely remember someone posting here. I would not know how to find it if that were allowed but it was not so it did not matter. I was proud that the quiz included coin #3 which is one of the few Shahi coins that have a reasonably close date attached. A quiz like this could be made with nothing but trickers and accomplish little. This one was well done.

This demonstrates why we should not have two such quizzes in the same thread. The #3 in the second quiz which started by the time this was posted is not super old. It is medieval. I was not aware that the dating on #3 in the first thread (definitely old) was concrete enough to use in this way. Was it the one linked to the time of Buddha or was that another coin? When was Buddha?

 

that cheese has got me side-tracked ... I'm out

 

How far did he have to go for that cheese? Wisconsin?

 

well, it started with string cheese....but then my wife made some tacos.

mmmm............tacos.

it is indeed the following..

4-5-1-7-2-3-8-6

I thought the nabatean would be a bit tricky, and was hoping number 6 would be tricky. If you don't know that coin, its Spanish 17th century coin...and 8 maravedis of Philip IV. A complete overstruck mess that makes it look much older than it is, here is the undertype (or pretty close)...





thanks for playing!

 

I like these threads. They're sort of like the "Guess the Grade" posts in the US forum, but not boring.

 

here are the expanded answers....sorry i forgot to post them.

4, Ionia, Miletos, 6th-4th century BC.



5, Roman Republic, c. 169 - 158 BC



1, Nabatean Kingdom, Aretas IV, 9 BC-40 AD



7, Numerian, 283-284 AD, Billon Antoninianus




2, Maurice Tiberius, regnal year 6 (587/8) AD, Æ half follis



3, Saffarid bull and horseman jital, 9th century AD



8, Edward I (1272-1307 AD), Penny



and lastly, ...as noted above, 17th century.



you can see portions of the date on the coin, i think 1619 on obverse left, upside down 1652 or 1657 on right.

 

I want the tacos, JA can have the string cheese. What, those aren't the prizes? Aww, man...

 

It does not change the order but I see you redated #3 from the Tye catalog where it is called Khudarayaka (not a name but a title) and dated 870-875 AD. I figured you used it because of the narrow dating while most bull/horsemen carry date spread guesses over a century. As I understood it, the coin was issued not by the Saffarid ruler but by a subordinate ruler in Kabul relatively soon after the Shahi defeat. Where are you getting the redating?

 

ooops, no you're right DS...i was going off of memory and was just off...i pulled out my flip and it says 9th century. i didn't have those exact years written down however. i just knew it hid between 2 and 8 with a pretty good buffer on each side, so it was probably a better choice that i thought. i edited my post...thank you!

 

According to Buddhist tradition Gautama Buddha lived c. BC 563 - 480
and was born in Lumbini, Shakya Republic. There are several coins I have posted that are related to the life and times of Buddha.

Number One here is the 5 Shana attributed to Shakya Janapada. BC 550-480. Weighing 7 grams.


and the Series 1 Magadha Karshapana,attributed temp. Bimbisara to Ajatasatru. BC 550 - 470. Weighing 3.4 grams, Bimbisara once offered the kingdom of Magadha to the Buddha, who refused it.


the first #3 is the earlier precursor to the Karshapana is the slightly heavier Vimsatika. This one weighing 4.4 grams. The coins were attributed by Hardaker himself, for what its worth. They are attributed to Matsya but by the time of the Buddha Matsya was in serious decline and would eventually be enveloped by Magadha, who would emerge the most power of the original 16 realms.

 

Tell me that is a joke. Please.

I know that, in the end, collecting often becomes an obsession with minutiae BUT tell me it hasn't become a deliberate fast path to OCD.

 

A joke? No sir, no joke. Here are a hundred "Guess the Grade" threads for starters. Enjoy.

GTG

 

Depressing.