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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 2611912, member: 19463&quot;][ATTACH=full]571550[/ATTACH]</p><p>My Balbus is nothing special and adds nothing here</p><p><br /></p><p>for equal time I&#039;ll add my C. Marius Capito who was apparently a Sullan despite his name. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]571551[/ATTACH]</p><p>This coin gets a thorough discussion in Harlan (red cover) suggesting the moneyer was selected precisely for his name being &#039;unusual&#039; for a Sulla supporter and points out that you don&#039;t have to be stupid and support cause of the old Marius (now dead) and Marius the Younger (ditto) beyond where it is reasonable.&nbsp; Harlan quotes a parable spoken by Sulla about a plowman who was bitten by fleas (a hazard of hanging out with oxen, I gather) so twice he stopped and shook out his cloak to no avail.&nbsp; The third time, he took off his cloak and burned it.&nbsp; The final line of the parable from Sulla was, &quot;And I advise those who have been defeated twice not to stand in need of fire the third time.&quot; </p><p><br /></p><p>These are unusual in that the dies were used as a set so the number is the same on both sides.&nbsp; Mine is 37.&nbsp; There is also a symbol under the chin of Ceres.&nbsp; Mine sure looks like a scorpion but Banti calls his &#039;astuccio&#039; which I can not find in Italian resources with a meaning other than &#039;case&#039; which is not what we have here.&nbsp; Republican experts please help.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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