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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Sallent, post: 2771215, member: 76194&quot;]I&#039;m going to give you a Japanese and a Swiss option, and explain the upsides and downsides of these watches.</p><p><br /></p><p>The problem is that even &quot;good watches&quot; last no more than a decade before needing some service to them. A Hamilton, or Tissot, which are entry level Swiss brands, use ETA movements, which are some of the most robust and reliable automatic movements out there. But you will probably need to have one serviced every 5-8 years, or it won&#039;t start keeping good time or will stop. Servicing costs money. So if you spend $400 on a watch now, in 5-8 years you may have to spend an additional $125 to keep it running well.However, with proper services these watches will last you 3 to 4 decades, if not more, and it&#039;s almost alwats cheaper to maintain them than to buy another decent watch.</p><p><br /></p><p>Seiko use a slower beat movement, so their automatic watches can go 10-15 years without service, and having a Seiko running after 20 years without service is not unheard of. But still, if you get one, plan on spending on service costs at least $120 after 10 years to keep it running.</p><p><br /></p><p>*Those brands above are simple enough that even a local watchmaker can service them (if you don&#039;t want to send them back to the brand&#039;s maintenance center for repair/maintenance).</p><p><br /></p><p>With that in mind, here are some options:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]639098[/ATTACH] Seiko SARX019</p><p><br /></p><p>This is a Japanese Domenstic Market Watch, not available outside Japan. However, you can order it from Japan rather easily. Seiya Jappan, one of my favorite dealers, has it for $608.98 shipped. For that you get an auto with sapphire crystal (very scratch resistant), 10 ATMs of water resistance (enough to even go swimming with it), the 6R15 automatic movement (known to go 10-15 years without needing a service). Downside is that these run +25/-15 seconds a day, so unless you have yours regulated then you might have to take a minute per week or two to adjust the time.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a cheaper Swiss option (keeping it mind it might need servicing in 5-8 years instead of 10-15.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]639105[/ATTACH]</p><p>Tissot Le Locle Powermatic</p><p><br /></p><p>The good news is that you can buy it brand new from a local Tissot dealer (google one in your area) for $575 USD. With that you get boxes, papers, and warranty. And these tend to be more accurate than the Seiko above, usually keeping +8/-5 seconds a day</p><p><br /></p><p>But if that&#039;s too rich for your blood, someone suggested jomashop.com in a post above, where you can find it for $345.00. Although you&#039;ll get a genuine watch at that price, the downside is that it is what&#039;s called the grey market, ie. jomashop is not an authorized dealer but rather a re-seller. Which means you get genuine watches, but without the original papers and warranty (usually a 1-2 year warranty). I would not recommend them for watches above $1000 as if something goes wrong, the out of pocket costs to fix a watch might be too much, but for an entry level watch like a Tissot, that might be a risk worth taking.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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