Quick mint mark question...

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  1. dimeguy

    dimeguy Dime Enthusiast

    When the mint punched mint marks, did they use the same punch for all denominations? Thanks in advance!
     
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  3. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    No. Many different punches were used.
     
  4. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

  5. dimeguy

    dimeguy Dime Enthusiast

    I guess I should have been more specific...my fault. For a given year, would one mint use different stylings of the same mint mark. For example: trumpet tail on one denomination, but ball serif on another?
     
  6. Dearborn

    Dearborn Above average collector - Is that an Error?

    Good question, short answer is no, for several reasons.
    1. there are several mints with different letters (P,D,S) (Yes I know, so don't beat me up on the obvious)
    2. coin size is different, imaging a mint mark from a half dollar being placed on a dime.
    3. Far too many coins to punch with only one mint punch.
    4. In 1990 and 1991 the Mint began applying the mint mark to the master die for circulation strike coins. After 1994 the mint mark was placed on the master design.
     
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  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    What is a master design?
     
  8. Dearborn

    Dearborn Above average collector - Is that an Error?

    ..and after posting up my response I see that there were already answers and a clarification post added. So that makes my reply a bit silly now...
     
  9. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Using the list I sent, I checked for an example. 1942S Walking Liberty Half, and 1942S Lincoln wheat cent both used MMS-004 (Trumpet Tail), up to you how further you want to delve into it
     
  10. Dearborn

    Dearborn Above average collector - Is that an Error?

    The master design is the original design of a given coin that is used to create the Master dies/hubs, which in turn are used to make the working dies/hubs that are used to create the coins. (I think I got that right) correct me if not please.
     
  11. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    Sometimes the wrong punch was used, such as a quarter mintmark used on a nickel. I think that's how the 1941 S large S came to be.
     
  12. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Largesse or Large S?
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    alurid Well-Known Member

  14. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

  15. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    dimeguy, asked: I guess I should have been more specific...my fault. For a given year, would one mint use different stylings of the same mint mark..."

    YES , no, and sometimes. Dates and Mints can be found with the same size & style. Dates and Mints can be found with different sizes and style.
     
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  16. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    While we are on MM sizes what happened with the Mercury Dime 1945 mico S? I mean, the dime is the smallest sized modern US coin, how did a smaller than normal mm come to be on this particular coin? Polish_20200831_215910321~2.jpg Polish_20200831_215910321~3.jpg
     
  17. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    MM got used until they were unusable, that is why we have different MM styles through out many series of coins.
    It was 89 when the MM got transfered to the master die.
    This eliminated the need to punch every working die with a MM before being hardened.
     
  18. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I am only guessing here. The reason for different punches was the process in making them and/or the cleaning of the punch before each use. could have simply been a weak employee.
     
  19. dimeguy

    dimeguy Dime Enthusiast

    Thank you all for the responses. The reason I asked was because I purchased a Walking Liberty Half, but I felt like the "S" mint mark on it, had a different serif type compared to the cent I have of the same year, same mint. I just was simply curious if they used the same instrument to punch all the marks, but it seems from what I could search online and here, that is not necessarily the case. Thanks again for the answers and entertaining my curiosities.
     
  20. dimeguy

    dimeguy Dime Enthusiast

    If I remember correctly (and that is a big "if" since it has been a moment since I have read my Mercury dime guide!) That year, San Fran simultaneously made two punches for the S but being as demand was so high they did not bother to compare the two for similarity. Being as such, one was inadvertently created significantly smaller than the other and the micro S was variety was born.
     
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  21. cplradar

    cplradar Talmud Chuchum


    I wondered why they didn't do that to start with. It seems like so much extra trouble to make a seperate punch for the mit when your producing millions of coins.
     
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