Questions on tokens - some I picked up in Saint Louis today

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by GeorgeM, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    I stopped in Saint Louis today and picked up some tokens that I've never seen before (along with some that are rare in my neck of the woods). Do you recognize any of these or have any additional info?

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  3. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    The Missouri paper sales tax tokens don't seem to have been preserved in any serious number, so I pounced on those.

    There were also a lot of saloon tokens for a place called Mae Bozi's Tavern, at 1631 E Mason, Springfield Ill. There were a few 10c tokens, but most were a slightly different die 25c denomination. Any idea what these date to? And did I find a rare cache, or are these common as dirt in the vicinity of Illinois?

    There were a couple of merchant tokens that I did closeups on (and flipped). Anyone know more about the following?
    1) MP 5c
    2) Harry Evers - Good for 5c In Trade (0434 scratched on back)
    3) 2608 / Good for 5c in Trade
    4) J.S. 5 / Haskell Enc Co. St. Louis
  4. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Mae Bozi's Tavern, on Mapquest
    1631 E Mason, Springfield Ill

    The address puts it not far off from the downtown. Does anyone know of a resource to chart modern addresses onto historic maps? I'm curious as to how this location fit into the city at different times in its history. And a tool like that would be awfully handy for metal detecting...

    From the style of the token, I'd guess anywhere from 1900-1920: what do you think?
  5. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Do we have any experts on Saloon Tokens? I'd love to learn some more on this topic.
  6. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    I found an interesting eHow article on how to gauge the age of casino chips:

    Anyone have a similar primer on trade / saloon tokens? What time period were 5c tokens common? 10c? 25c? I've also seen some in odd denominations (2.5c and 12.5c seem to be fairly common).
  7. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    In my experience they tended to track drink prices. Of the tokens I have, the 5 cent ones are usually the earliest, dating from around 1890-1910.

    Btw, just to be clear, I am not an expert in these AT ALL. The only reason I own them is I bought a large lot of them once at an auction, (bored), and I have others I have accumulated from junk drawer purchases.
  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball Cannot Re-Member

    Sorry, George, I won't be of much help with those neat tokens, but if you have any old casino chips, I found the best resource for dating and identifying them is A Collector's Guide to Nevada Gaming Checks & Chips written by Howard & Kregg Herz and published by Whitman in 1995 (First Edition).

  9. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Just bumping this to see if any token collectors are reading the board today...
  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The paper Missouri tax tokens are actually rather common even in high grade.
  11. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Really? I very rarely come across them. That may be because I'm in Texas and they didn't travel as far as the zinc, resin, and plastic issues.
  12. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Anyone hear of Mae Bozi's Tavern? I haven't had much luck digging for it on Google, but was thinking it might be worth hitting old newspaper stacks in Illinois (or an online search of old articles).

    What is / were the major papers in the Springfield area?
  13. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Nice group of tokens.
  14. cwtokenman

    cwtokenman Coin Hoarder

    I don't recall seeing this thread before. I may be able to help when I get home to my ref. books. It may take a few days though as the next couple are very busy for me.
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