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<p>[QUOTE="ToddB67, post: 3321053, member: 18134"]Thanks everyone for replies to this thread !</p><p>GDJMSP's was especially informative. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Before posting this thread I had collected some information during my efforts to obtain answers to:</p><p><br /></p><p>#1..The average microscopic size range for Length, Width and Depth of Hairlines and Scratches found on coins.</p><p>#2..The magnification power required to see these imperfections.</p><p><br /></p><p>So today I decided to publish what I collected FYI (below).</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.numismaticnews.net/article/scratches-vary-in-severity-on-coins" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.numismaticnews.net/article/scratches-vary-in-severity-on-coins" rel="nofollow">https://www.numismaticnews.net/article/scratches-vary-in-severity-on-coins</a> <font size="6"><span style="color: rgb(255, 77, 77)">←</span></font> According to the 6th paragraph down on the 1st page of this link, the author says "When does a hairline become a scratch? I believe it happens as soon as the mark becomes slightly wider or deeper – perhaps the thickness of the finest blonde human hair you could ever imagine."</p><p>So, according to that statement in quotes, which I interpret as defining scratches, and concomitant with the diameter range of Flaxen hair in the following link below, I have deduced the diameter and theoretically the width at a Min.- Max. level !</p><p><br /></p><p>See the following quote below that appears at the bottom of the chart in the The Physics Factsbook link below, that I converted to be from 0.0007" (seven-ten-thousandths) to 0.002" (two thousandsths) inch in my <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)"><u>Legend</u></span> below. Hairlines would then be even smaller, perhaps down into the micrometer (millionths of a meter) size !</p><p><br /></p><p>"Flaxen hair is the finest, from 1/1500 to 1/500 of an inch in diameter … and black hair is the coarsest, from 1/450 to 1/140 of an inch." <a href="https://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/BrianLey.shtml" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/BrianLey.shtml" rel="nofollow">https://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/BrianLey.shtml </a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)"><u>Legend </u></span> (Flaxen hair):</p><p>1/1500 = 0.000666" (rounded ^ = 0.0007" or seven-ten-thousandths inch</p><p>1/500 = 0.002" or two-thousandths inch</p><p>Reference: 10-6 = 0.000 001 inch</p><p><br /></p><p>1 micro-meter = 1 millionth of a meter = (39.3700787401 <b>÷</b> 1,000,000.) = 0.00003937007 = (0.000040" rounded ^) = "forty-millionths".</p><p><br /></p><p>17–50 µm (micrometers) = 0.0007 "- 0.002" diameter range for flaxen hair (blond).</p><p>56–181 µm 0.0022" - 0.007" diameter range for black hair.</p><p><br /></p><p>We have microscopes with multiple-power settings, but apparently no one with access to a professional-quality instrument and having concurrent interest in coin grading has thought it would be of general interest to take on the project of measuring hairline-size imperfections and then published their findings for numismatist !</p><p><br /></p><p>With the plethora of technical information available on a vast panorama of subjects, I wonder why this has not been done already and at least briefly covered in the Red Books ?</p><p><br /></p><p>I think I've given a brief coverage here of scratch level width (depth and length being still "up in the air".), but I'll have to rely on someone else to tackle hairlines , since all I have is a kid's toy microscope for amateur work left by one of my sons and now in retirement I can't justify buying a high quality scope on my SS income.</p><p><br /></p><p>"Hairlines are microscopic scratches that show up as incuse lines," <font size="6"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)"> ← </span></font>Stated in 3rd paragraph down of following ANACS link.</p><p><a href="http://www.anacs.com/(A(2pIs3toOzwEkAAAAOTRlZTY2NDItOTM0My00OTI4LTlhYTktZjY4ODczMTRlNjQ29JQW-Sx2-kh_0Ke-qHYuoLRyJmE1)S(rrc4z0u3vmiowezwdza2pwyi))/contentPages/ShowArticle.aspx?ID=7&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.anacs.com/(A(2pIs3toOzwEkAAAAOTRlZTY2NDItOTM0My00OTI4LTlhYTktZjY4ODczMTRlNjQ29JQW-Sx2-kh_0Ke-qHYuoLRyJmE1)S(rrc4z0u3vmiowezwdza2pwyi))/contentPages/ShowArticle.aspx?ID=7&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.anacs.com/(A(2pIs3toOzwEkAAAAOTRlZTY2NDItOTM0My00OTI4LTlhYTktZjY4ODczMTRlNjQ29JQW-Sx2-kh_0Ke-qHYuoLRyJmE1)S(rrc4z0u3vmiowezwdza2pwyi))/contentPages/ShowArticle.aspx?ID=7&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1</a></p><p><br /></p><p>ToddB67[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ToddB67, post: 3321053, member: 18134"]Thanks everyone for replies to this thread ! GDJMSP's was especially informative. :) Before posting this thread I had collected some information during my efforts to obtain answers to: #1..The average microscopic size range for Length, Width and Depth of Hairlines and Scratches found on coins. #2..The magnification power required to see these imperfections. So today I decided to publish what I collected FYI (below). [url]https://www.numismaticnews.net/article/scratches-vary-in-severity-on-coins[/url] [SIZE=6][COLOR=rgb(255, 77, 77)]←[/COLOR][/SIZE] According to the 6th paragraph down on the 1st page of this link, the author says "When does a hairline become a scratch? I believe it happens as soon as the mark becomes slightly wider or deeper – perhaps the thickness of the finest blonde human hair you could ever imagine." So, according to that statement in quotes, which I interpret as defining scratches, and concomitant with the diameter range of Flaxen hair in the following link below, I have deduced the diameter and theoretically the width at a Min.- Max. level ! See the following quote below that appears at the bottom of the chart in the The Physics Factsbook link below, that I converted to be from 0.0007" (seven-ten-thousandths) to 0.002" (two thousandsths) inch in my [COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 0)][U]Legend[/U][/COLOR] below. Hairlines would then be even smaller, perhaps down into the micrometer (millionths of a meter) size ! "Flaxen hair is the finest, from 1/1500 to 1/500 of an inch in diameter … and black hair is the coarsest, from 1/450 to 1/140 of an inch." [URL='https://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/BrianLey.shtml']https://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/BrianLey.shtml [/URL] [COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 0)] [U]Legend [/U][/COLOR] (Flaxen hair): 1/1500 = 0.000666" (rounded ^ = 0.0007" or seven-ten-thousandths inch 1/500 = 0.002" or two-thousandths inch Reference: 10-6 = 0.000 001 inch 1 micro-meter = 1 millionth of a meter = (39.3700787401 [B]÷[/B] 1,000,000.) = 0.00003937007 = (0.000040" rounded ^) = "forty-millionths". 17–50 µm (micrometers) = 0.0007 "- 0.002" diameter range for flaxen hair (blond). 56–181 µm 0.0022" - 0.007" diameter range for black hair. We have microscopes with multiple-power settings, but apparently no one with access to a professional-quality instrument and having concurrent interest in coin grading has thought it would be of general interest to take on the project of measuring hairline-size imperfections and then published their findings for numismatist ! With the plethora of technical information available on a vast panorama of subjects, I wonder why this has not been done already and at least briefly covered in the Red Books ? I think I've given a brief coverage here of scratch level width (depth and length being still "up in the air".), but I'll have to rely on someone else to tackle hairlines , since all I have is a kid's toy microscope for amateur work left by one of my sons and now in retirement I can't justify buying a high quality scope on my SS income. "Hairlines are microscopic scratches that show up as incuse lines," [SIZE=6][COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 0)] ← [/COLOR][/SIZE]Stated in 3rd paragraph down of following ANACS link. [url]http://www.anacs.com/(A(2pIs3toOzwEkAAAAOTRlZTY2NDItOTM0My00OTI4LTlhYTktZjY4ODczMTRlNjQ29JQW-Sx2-kh_0Ke-qHYuoLRyJmE1)S(rrc4z0u3vmiowezwdza2pwyi))/contentPages/ShowArticle.aspx?ID=7&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1[/url] ToddB67[/QUOTE]
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