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<p>[QUOTE="Andrew McCabe, post: 6539024, member: 90666"]A great deal of unnecessary doubting of well established information sources such as the Bourgey November 1913 sale being of the collection of the Spanish Cuban Venezuelan, Vidal Quadras y Ramon who died in 1884. Yet it doesn't say so in the catalogue. But every knows.</p><p><br /></p><p>I can only suggest that if standard sources of information about collectors don't suffice, then don't pay a premium for their coins. Others will pay provenance premiums so the result is one will end up collecting recently dug and possibly illegally imported coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>It's really better if you can to go with current established methods of provenances, rather than ask for impossible information such as Vidal Quadras y Ramon holding a coin I might now own, in some 1850s Cuban photo*. The alternative to not beleiving such passed down information is buying material with absolutely no information at all. Or not collecting at all.</p><p><br /></p><p>*actually am not sure we have any photos of the guy so how could we verify it? But we know his coins were sold by Bourgey Nov.1913 partly because the firm has a long documented history and the current Madame Bourgey, working from her Paris office of the same firm, has said so in books[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Andrew McCabe, post: 6539024, member: 90666"]A great deal of unnecessary doubting of well established information sources such as the Bourgey November 1913 sale being of the collection of the Spanish Cuban Venezuelan, Vidal Quadras y Ramon who died in 1884. Yet it doesn't say so in the catalogue. But every knows. I can only suggest that if standard sources of information about collectors don't suffice, then don't pay a premium for their coins. Others will pay provenance premiums so the result is one will end up collecting recently dug and possibly illegally imported coins. It's really better if you can to go with current established methods of provenances, rather than ask for impossible information such as Vidal Quadras y Ramon holding a coin I might now own, in some 1850s Cuban photo*. The alternative to not beleiving such passed down information is buying material with absolutely no information at all. Or not collecting at all. *actually am not sure we have any photos of the guy so how could we verify it? But we know his coins were sold by Bourgey Nov.1913 partly because the firm has a long documented history and the current Madame Bourgey, working from her Paris office of the same firm, has said so in books[/QUOTE]
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