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Message:: [QUOTE="HandsomeToad, post: 501700, member: 12965"]Hey Ben!  <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />  That doesn't jive with Early Coppers so I guess there isn't symmetry in the numismatic world?  <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />  I thought there would be no difference in terminology of a penny to a dollar but I guess I was wrong.  <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> In coppers, once the die is made, it's a variety with subcategories of die states until such time as either side is paired with a different die or it's tossed out. The 1801 S-215 DBC is a great example. The dies apparently clashed early on and were eventually tossed. No matter what die state you get, it's a S-215 and the clashing of the dies didn't change that. There are other varieties with DBC's that are identical and the variety didn't change because the dies clashed. One of the most clashed die series, has to be the Fugios and even they don't change variety when the dies clashed. So why does it change variety with other coins? I think the simple answer is - the other coins don't actually have true varieties, like the early coppers do and it's just a way to categorize them, so they are NOT true varieties and the term is being used loosely! Ribbit  <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]

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