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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;bhp3rd, post: 501575, member: 16510&quot;]<b>A clash can become a variety and a varity become a clash.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>A clash is a error and, doubled dies, RPM&#039;s, etc. are varieties.&nbsp; Mostly!!</p><p>The reason a clash is a error is because it is a malfunction of the coining equipment.&nbsp; Something went wrong and it was a error in production or damaged materials.</p><p>A variety is not a malfunction of equipment or damaged materials - it is a human error in the production of the coining equipments finished product.</p><p>An error is something the mint will not let continue and a variety oftentimes will be continued. The 1955 doubled die DDO-001 was let out, (20,000 of them) even though the die was caught.</p><p>An error is a reason to stop or repair the coining equipment because something is wrong.&nbsp; A variety can be continued often being overlooked or deemed not that serious.</p><p>A variety is traceable to one die, hubb, or dressing of one die or hubb.</p><p>A error is breakdown of the coining process or materials.</p><p>A variety is the finished minted coin with the same type of doubling (variety) attributed to one working die or hubb.</p><p>It is a varieity because all the coins that the die produces are almost exactly the same albeit for die state of those coins and or reverses.</p><p>When I tell another die variety specialist I have a 1876-CC Dime DDO-001 with the first, second or third reverse die he knows exactly what coin I am speaking about - even after 140 years.</p><p>Error coins are almost never attributed to one die and especially not to different reverse die changes.</p><p>Variety coins are always attributed to one die, (or hubb) and we can trace the different reverse dies used with that particular obverse die.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Now to get even more complicated:</p><p>A variety can become an error and an error become a variety.</p><p>Sometimes, (1971 Lincoln &amp; 2000-P Lincoln) a coin is first thought to be a doubled die (variety) and with more research it is later is determined to be a damaged die or a from of mechanical doubling, (error) or clash.&nbsp; It then must revert back to being an error coin at that point.</p><p>Sometimes, (in the case of Morgan Dollars and other 19th century coins) a clash become a variety.&nbsp; Reason, the clash shows up on all the same mint &amp; dated dollars, the coin is highly sort after, in demand, is hard to find on a very popular series the error then becomes a variety, still traceable to one die or hubb.</p><p>With that said, yes you could trace some errors in die procession (die state) but the task would eventually be impossible and not very reliable as the subject die will eventually be destroyed by the coining process itself.</p><p>A variety die will usually not be destroyed (at least during coining) but will continue to keep working just as it was intended till it is retired or discovered.&nbsp; With an error die that is broken you will have to replace it.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I hope this helps you&#039;all - I sure did work hard on it.</p><p>Ben Peter</p><p>&quot;the truest statement I know of, to all questions is the answer, it depends?&quot;[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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