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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;longnine009, post: 24785121, member: 1886&quot;]I believe so. And with re-toning on a coin that otherwise was rinsed properly, the re-toning may be erratic and crappy looking. Also, coins that are dipped too many times will burn away flow-lines, and so, the coins luster. And no one is keeping count on how many times&nbsp; coins have been dipped already. One day we&#039;ll have our own Hollywood with celebs who have dead faces from 25 face lifts. </p><p><br /></p><p>That&#039;s one of the&nbsp; reasons people like old holders so much.</p><p><br /></p><p>We weakened ourselves by welcoming TPGs to do the heavy lifting for us. Darwin doesn&#039;t like weakness.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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