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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1378518, member: 112"]Eggman - </p><p><br /></p><p>As explained somewhat, when it comes to color it's a different thing entirely than the Genuine holder for the '93-S. The Morgan is a problem coin because of the scratch. It's considered to be damaged. And as explained not everybody would realize that before they sent the coin in. That part is understandable.</p><p><br /></p><p>But the color issue is entirely different. Let me use this an example to try and explain. Say you had a original Mint Set or Proof Set, still sealed in the original pliofilm packaging from the mint. The coins were all nicely toned so you wanted to submit them. So you sent them in, still in the original packaging. But when you got the coins back - the TPG had said questionable color.</p><p><br /></p><p>You're confused with the result. The coins were in original mint packaging so in your eyes there is no question that the toning was 100% natural toning. </p><p><br /></p><p>Well, that's the problem right there, for a couple of reasons. First and foremost the people who said questionable color are the graders. But what you don't realize is this, the graders have no idea at all that the coins were in original mint packaging. For when the TPG got the coins, the coins were removed from that original packaging <u>before</u> the graders ever got to see the coins. The graders just see the coins one at time, and in a flip.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now the second reason, and again it's something that a lot of people don't realize. Let's say the graders did get to see the coins in the original packaging. Even that would not matter. The reason it wouldn't matter is because it is rather an easy task for one who has the knowledge and know how to artificially tone those coins while they are still in the original mint packaging.</p><p><br /></p><p>So the only thing that does matter is the toning itself. And if the graders think the color may not be market acceptable then they will label the coins as questionable color. It's all a matter of opinion and nothing else. </p><p><br /></p><p>The toning can indeed be 100% natural toning. But there is no way to distinguish natural toning from artificial toning. It doesn't matter who it is, the best expert in the entire world can't do it with any degree of certainty. And that's why, when it comes to color, the TPGs go strictly by the opinions of the graders.</p><p><br /></p><p>And as said, if you sent those coins in again they might very well come back this time in regular slabs. It has happened a thousand times exactly like that because it is just an opinion and opinions can often be different at different times. Even when it is the opinion of the same person.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1378518, member: 112"]Eggman - As explained somewhat, when it comes to color it's a different thing entirely than the Genuine holder for the '93-S. The Morgan is a problem coin because of the scratch. It's considered to be damaged. And as explained not everybody would realize that before they sent the coin in. That part is understandable. But the color issue is entirely different. Let me use this an example to try and explain. Say you had a original Mint Set or Proof Set, still sealed in the original pliofilm packaging from the mint. The coins were all nicely toned so you wanted to submit them. So you sent them in, still in the original packaging. But when you got the coins back - the TPG had said questionable color. You're confused with the result. The coins were in original mint packaging so in your eyes there is no question that the toning was 100% natural toning. Well, that's the problem right there, for a couple of reasons. First and foremost the people who said questionable color are the graders. But what you don't realize is this, the graders have no idea at all that the coins were in original mint packaging. For when the TPG got the coins, the coins were removed from that original packaging [U]before[/U] the graders ever got to see the coins. The graders just see the coins one at time, and in a flip. Now the second reason, and again it's something that a lot of people don't realize. Let's say the graders did get to see the coins in the original packaging. Even that would not matter. The reason it wouldn't matter is because it is rather an easy task for one who has the knowledge and know how to artificially tone those coins while they are still in the original mint packaging. So the only thing that does matter is the toning itself. And if the graders think the color may not be market acceptable then they will label the coins as questionable color. It's all a matter of opinion and nothing else. The toning can indeed be 100% natural toning. But there is no way to distinguish natural toning from artificial toning. It doesn't matter who it is, the best expert in the entire world can't do it with any degree of certainty. And that's why, when it comes to color, the TPGs go strictly by the opinions of the graders. And as said, if you sent those coins in again they might very well come back this time in regular slabs. It has happened a thousand times exactly like that because it is just an opinion and opinions can often be different at different times. Even when it is the opinion of the same person.[/QUOTE]
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