Questionable Authenticity?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by qazwsxedc, Feb 14, 2010.

  1. qazwsxedc

    qazwsxedc Junior Member

    Well it showed up today.

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    I'm no expert on trade dollars so I'll let you guys decide.
    The weight is 27.13

    The coin sounds like silver and dosn't stick to a magnet.

    PS: the face has worn off. Even has a small low spot in the field next to it. I can't help but wounder if the face was to far off so they filed it down and polished it?
     
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  3. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    The weight is pretty close. How about the diameter?

    A small amount of weight can be lost to wear, but unless the reeding shows signs of severe wear such as results from heavy slot machine use, it should stay at 38.1 mm.

    Common problem areas - the width of the rim and the regularity of the denticles - both look pretty good in you photo. I'll leave an analysis of the hand and other key markers to those with greater expertise than mine, but I'm leaning toward that real rarity - a genuine TD.
     
  4. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"


    You would think it would go one way or another, Either slab it
    Or not return it, There shouldnt be a middle ground:confused:
     
  5. qazwsxedc

    qazwsxedc Junior Member

    Knew I forgot something.
    its about 38mm. My ruler only goes by mm so i can't get any closer then that.


    From what I've read on the Anacs website they seem to only confiscate the coin if they are sure its counterfeit. Guess they if they aren't sure they just send it back so they don't need to worry about buying it back later if they messed up.
     
  6. robbudo

    robbudo Indian Error Collector

    I live a few miles from ANACS and go in there every two months, to pick up an order and to drop a few new ones off. I know Paul (customer relations) pretty well. Once I had a large cent, that could have swore was broadstruck, but it came back as normal. I brought up my question to him. The paperwork I initially got back from them just said something generic like "no variety or error" - one of the default options they can choose. After talking to Paul, we got the more detailed notes on the coin from the graders, "struck from worn collar", which describes why it was normal and why i thought it was broadstruck.

    I'd recommend giving them a ring or shooting them an email to ask why they thought it could have been fake - the additional info they might give you could be very valuable, and I'm sure they remember your specific coin.

     
  7. qazwsxedc

    qazwsxedc Junior Member

    Thanks robbudo.

    I'll send them an email this evening and see what they say.
     
  8. qazwsxedc

    qazwsxedc Junior Member

    I got a reply from Paul today.

    apparently the coins too beat up to positively determine its authenticity. He also claimed the weight is 27.03 which means my scale must be off by more then I thought.

    I think I'm going to use the coin to fill the space in my type album (my slabbed one won't fit in the slot. )
     
  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Sounds like nonsense. Before 1836 they didn't use a collar, and after 1836 thee is no way they would be using a collar so worn that the coin would appear to be a broadstrike. Typically a collar is discarded if it is worn more than a few thousandths of an inch. That isn't enough for a coin to appear broadstruck.
     
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