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<p>[QUOTE="ambr0zie, post: 8101781, member: 80952"]Although I am saying since September that my purchases should stop and I already posted 2 Top Tens, Santa Claus asked me if I was good this year and what do I want. </p><p>The only thing I was able to say was "ancient coins" so this is what I will get. </p><p><br /></p><p>I was after some RR denarii as this is an area I want to develop further (this would be my 7th RR coin). Managed to get the one I was expecting less and on 3 others I considered more common/worse conservation I was outbid. </p><p><br /></p><p>I first heard about this denarius in [USER=110350]@DonnaML[/USER]'s thread and was fascinated about the myth behind it</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/roman-republican-no-63-l-papius-celsus-juno-sospita-wolf-eagle.387754/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/roman-republican-no-63-l-papius-celsus-juno-sospita-wolf-eagle.387754/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/roman-republican-no-63-l-papius-celsus-juno-sospita-wolf-eagle.387754/</a></p><p>And I really liked the design. </p><p>Read further about it here</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/nice-republican-surprise.378343/#post-7360623" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/nice-republican-surprise.378343/#post-7360623">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/nice-republican-surprise.378343/#post-7360623</a></p><p>and here</p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-beautiful-myth-in-a-little-coin.370203/#post-5136398" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-beautiful-myth-in-a-little-coin.370203/#post-5136398">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-beautiful-myth-in-a-little-coin.370203/#post-5136398</a></p><p>I knew that examples showing the eagle on the flan are highly desirable, as the story makes sense and I also knew that more often than not the eagle is missing. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1408824[/ATTACH]</p><p>But I also knew this is not a cheap coin even in an average condition. </p><p>Seeing that the other RR denarii I was after are getting more expensive than I was prepared for, I decided to concentrate on this one, thinking I might get it for 100 EUR, even if other prices I checked were bit encouraging. But, what did I have to lose. </p><p><br /></p><p>Got it for much less than I was expecting, this was surprising, even if Juno Sospita is in bad condition and the reverse does not show the full wolf, it clearly shows the interesting feature of the wing's eagle escaping the dotted border, plus the fire and stick clearly visible.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now my only question would be, does anyone see some bad clues on this coin? (except the obverse roughness). I am fully aware this is not FDC and probably a collector who wants only above average quality would ignore it, but I consider it an excellent addition. </p><p>The only thing I am afraid of is a forgery (I am not skilled at all in detecting forgeries). </p><p>And I don't understand what is behind Juno (coin is not with me yet). Initially I thought it is a control mark/mark of value/something similar but I cannot find anything similar on the examples I saw.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ambr0zie, post: 8101781, member: 80952"]Although I am saying since September that my purchases should stop and I already posted 2 Top Tens, Santa Claus asked me if I was good this year and what do I want. The only thing I was able to say was "ancient coins" so this is what I will get. I was after some RR denarii as this is an area I want to develop further (this would be my 7th RR coin). Managed to get the one I was expecting less and on 3 others I considered more common/worse conservation I was outbid. I first heard about this denarius in [USER=110350]@DonnaML[/USER]'s thread and was fascinated about the myth behind it [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/roman-republican-no-63-l-papius-celsus-juno-sospita-wolf-eagle.387754/[/URL] And I really liked the design. Read further about it here [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/nice-republican-surprise.378343/#post-7360623[/URL] and here [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-beautiful-myth-in-a-little-coin.370203/#post-5136398[/URL] I knew that examples showing the eagle on the flan are highly desirable, as the story makes sense and I also knew that more often than not the eagle is missing. [ATTACH=full]1408824[/ATTACH] But I also knew this is not a cheap coin even in an average condition. Seeing that the other RR denarii I was after are getting more expensive than I was prepared for, I decided to concentrate on this one, thinking I might get it for 100 EUR, even if other prices I checked were bit encouraging. But, what did I have to lose. Got it for much less than I was expecting, this was surprising, even if Juno Sospita is in bad condition and the reverse does not show the full wolf, it clearly shows the interesting feature of the wing's eagle escaping the dotted border, plus the fire and stick clearly visible. Now my only question would be, does anyone see some bad clues on this coin? (except the obverse roughness). I am fully aware this is not FDC and probably a collector who wants only above average quality would ignore it, but I consider it an excellent addition. The only thing I am afraid of is a forgery (I am not skilled at all in detecting forgeries). And I don't understand what is behind Juno (coin is not with me yet). Initially I thought it is a control mark/mark of value/something similar but I cannot find anything similar on the examples I saw.[/QUOTE]
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