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<p>[QUOTE="Bartelmoose, post: 726912, member: 21313"]<b>eBay; risk tolerance; & experience</b></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p>You make some good points.</p><p> </p><p>My orginal post regarding people adverse to eBay auctions was not meant to inflame, but simply to illustrate each person has their own individual level of risk aversion i.e., a risk acceptable to me may not be acceptable to you. </p><p> </p><p>However, I don't accept the premise that only fools buy raw coins on eBay.</p><p> </p><p>eBay wouldn't work if it's perceived to be a rigged game manipulated by crooked sellers. If eBay was a rigged game or crooked crap shoot for coin sales & purchases it would collapse; yet it is the biggest auction house for coins in the world, and its coin auction sales greatly exceed the aggregate total of all other worldwide auctions/ sales of coins each year.</p><p> </p><p>Indeed, a substantial number of major buyers and sellers in the US trade on eBay and monitor eBay sales.</p><p> </p><p>Certainly there are crooked sellers that appear on eBay.</p><p> </p><p>But "The Bay" does a pretty good job of quickly weeding out problem sellers once they become aware of them. </p><p> </p><p>They have to; eBay via PayPal has substantial exposure on billions of dollars of transactions.</p><p> </p><p>How do they find the crooks? </p><p> </p><p>A fair number are discovered by their security monitoring staff through a sophisticated screening process. But most are discovered via eBay members who alert them to potential & actual bogus auctions.</p><p> </p><p>How do I know all this?</p><p> </p><p>Since I've conducted well over a hundred thousand dollars of activity on eBay (mostly purchases) I'm a member of the eBay Voices program. A few years ago I was invited to the Big House in San Jose for two days and was shown how they monitor auctions.</p><p> </p><p>In fact, I just directed eBay to a thread on this forum that describes a recent eBay auction between a crooked eBay buyer and crooked eBay seller.</p><p> </p><p>Yes, eBay is very much a Caveat Emptor environment that is predicated upon a knowledgeable buyer who's capable of researching not only the item being auctioned but the track record of the Seller.</p><p> </p><p>It epitomizes the expression "if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen."</p><p> </p><p>But many people are surprised when they discover that eBay has more detailed guides on how to buy coins safely than a lot of authoritative books on the subject.</p><p> </p><p>As a final observation, I was pleased to see you state " I've worked for an investment firm for 10 years. Obviously, I've done a fair amount of trading over that time..." followed by some wise advice re: investing.</p><p> </p><p>I've been enforcing the federal securities laws for over 32 years myself and agree with those points wholeheartedly.</p><p> </p><p>I need to stop posting dialogue and take some pics of the the 1895-O Morgan and the replica & post them.</p><p> </p><p>Bart</p><p> </p><p>:thumb:[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bartelmoose, post: 726912, member: 21313"][b]eBay; risk tolerance; & experience[/b] You make some good points. My orginal post regarding people adverse to eBay auctions was not meant to inflame, but simply to illustrate each person has their own individual level of risk aversion i.e., a risk acceptable to me may not be acceptable to you. However, I don't accept the premise that only fools buy raw coins on eBay. eBay wouldn't work if it's perceived to be a rigged game manipulated by crooked sellers. If eBay was a rigged game or crooked crap shoot for coin sales & purchases it would collapse; yet it is the biggest auction house for coins in the world, and its coin auction sales greatly exceed the aggregate total of all other worldwide auctions/ sales of coins each year. Indeed, a substantial number of major buyers and sellers in the US trade on eBay and monitor eBay sales. Certainly there are crooked sellers that appear on eBay. But "The Bay" does a pretty good job of quickly weeding out problem sellers once they become aware of them. They have to; eBay via PayPal has substantial exposure on billions of dollars of transactions. How do they find the crooks? A fair number are discovered by their security monitoring staff through a sophisticated screening process. But most are discovered via eBay members who alert them to potential & actual bogus auctions. How do I know all this? Since I've conducted well over a hundred thousand dollars of activity on eBay (mostly purchases) I'm a member of the eBay Voices program. A few years ago I was invited to the Big House in San Jose for two days and was shown how they monitor auctions. In fact, I just directed eBay to a thread on this forum that describes a recent eBay auction between a crooked eBay buyer and crooked eBay seller. Yes, eBay is very much a Caveat Emptor environment that is predicated upon a knowledgeable buyer who's capable of researching not only the item being auctioned but the track record of the Seller. It epitomizes the expression "if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen." But many people are surprised when they discover that eBay has more detailed guides on how to buy coins safely than a lot of authoritative books on the subject. As a final observation, I was pleased to see you state " I've worked for an investment firm for 10 years. Obviously, I've done a fair amount of trading over that time..." followed by some wise advice re: investing. I've been enforcing the federal securities laws for over 32 years myself and agree with those points wholeheartedly. I need to stop posting dialogue and take some pics of the the 1895-O Morgan and the replica & post them. Bart :thumb:[/QUOTE]
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