Question on Uncirculated coins...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by dollar, Dec 14, 2020.

  1. dollar

    dollar Junior Member

    When coins leave the US Mint to a Federal Reserve Bank and then distributed to local banks in their area, would this unopened sealed box from them (Federal Reserve Bank) be considered "uncirculated" when they arrive at the local bank?
     
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  3. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    Yes
     
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  4. dollar

    dollar Junior Member

    So damage done at the Federal Reserve Bank would be considered as an "uncirculated" damaged coin?
     
  5. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    It would be post mint damage even if it's uncirculated.
     
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  6. Amos 811

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  7. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

    or just mint damage...rather then post mint.
     
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  8. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Once the coins leave the mint, they are Post Mint Coins.
     
  9. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    Once they leave the coin press they are post mint. For example if a coin somehow flies out of the press and hits the floor and it's all scratched that would be considered post mint damage.
     
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  10. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    I would speculate that ANY damage to a coin once it leaves the press is "post mint damage." It matters not if said damage happened 3 seconds after minting in the press room at the mint or in the garbage disposal in your sink.

    It left the dies, it's post mint damage.

    It happened IN the dies, it's an error.

    That's the definition.

    Z
     
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  11. dollar

    dollar Junior Member

    Is it commonplace to have damage from the Federal Reserve Bank? The reason I ask ... I have about 25 or so cents from a box of 2020p cents that the word AMERICA is almost scrapped off. Maybe from their coin wrapping machine?
     
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  12. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    Can you post a picture?
     
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  13. dollar

    dollar Junior Member

    Thank you...great answer...love the definition
     
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  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Interesting, it might be damage and it might be from a grease filled die. If you can, let's see it.
     
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  15. dollar

    dollar Junior Member

    I will... BUT... there is only low light to do it, so it may be blurry.
     
  16. dollar

    dollar Junior Member

    Here ya go... 2020pfullrev copy.jpg
     
  17. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    Ya got me what caused it, but it wasn't during the minting process.
     
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  18. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I disagree. It is still in the mint process and if they knowingly let it go it is a mint error. IMO
     
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  19. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    There has been a lot of discussion about this over the years. I think it was @Conder101 that pointed out that this should be called "Post Strike Damage" once it leaves the coining chamber.
     
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  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Thank you, I was about to make the point again that that is why I prefer the term Post Strike Damage. Anything that happens to the coin after the dies separate is Post Strike Damage.

    When people say Post Mint Damage they start then trying to divine whether or not the damage occured before or after it left the Mint, and that just isn't possible.

    Also the M in PMD or Post Mint Damage is actually a shorting of the original word Minting. PMD originally meant Post Minting Damage. Minting, like Strike, implies an action. When people shortened it to Mint, it tends to imply a location not an action.

    This is why I use PSD, Post Strike Damage. The meaning is clearer.
     
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  21. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Dang, that is almost completely scraped off. That is damage, no matter where it occurred.
     
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