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Message:: [QUOTE="foundinrolls, post: 1797091, member: 4350"]Please let me know if I need to update<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />  I'm using the text from the 2005 version, 6th edition as it pertains to Lincoln cents.  That's what I used as I quoted the text for EF and VF.  My book uses EF and not XF.  The EF stands for Extremely Fine.  You're right though.  Some descriptions, particularly on nickels say that luster is still present in EF.  They are inconsistent in the sections including silver coinage some say may be present while some say it is still present. Since the original question pertained to a wheat cent,  I didn't go into the other EF descriptions. So overall, we agree,  mint luster should be present on some coins graded EF but not all<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Ah, the inconsistencies of coin collecting<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />  Fun Stuff<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> have Fun,Bill[/QUOTE]