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<p>[QUOTE="GoldCoinLover, post: 359085, member: 4336"]I recently took a class, taught by Brian Silliman (current NGC grader) at the phoenix national money show in march. <b>I met GDMSP(sp?) at the show, the admin of this forum. I wanted to say thanks for the time we had, had fun.</b>I learned alot from it, but sometimes I still have doubts about myself. The show at the time gave me alot of self confidence, as I was able to spot most of the depressions on all of the counterfeit gold coins I got to look at. I learned that depressions have luster/metal flow in them, and blend in with the surrounding area of the coin, where as a bagmark is shiny around where the bagmark is.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have 2 questions. First, how can you tell the difference between a depression on a geniune mint made coin (mint made depressions) and on a counterfeit depression coin?</p><p><br /></p><p>Second, I've had this 1900 gold british sovereign for awhile. It's in a PCGS AU58 holder. I bought it as MS, but it didn't make the grade. I was told these are often counterfeited. Well I found what appears to be a mint made depression, or a bagmark. I can't tell. I looked at it under my loupe, and with the attached image on a microscope. If you look at the bottom of the depression/bagmark you'll notice it is slightly shiny. I think this means it IS a bagmark. What do you think?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/spacetimecont/godsov19002.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/spacetimecont/godsov1900-1.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/spacetimecont/PCGSVICTORIA.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GoldCoinLover, post: 359085, member: 4336"]I recently took a class, taught by Brian Silliman (current NGC grader) at the phoenix national money show in march. [B]I met GDMSP(sp?) at the show, the admin of this forum. I wanted to say thanks for the time we had, had fun.[/B]I learned alot from it, but sometimes I still have doubts about myself. The show at the time gave me alot of self confidence, as I was able to spot most of the depressions on all of the counterfeit gold coins I got to look at. I learned that depressions have luster/metal flow in them, and blend in with the surrounding area of the coin, where as a bagmark is shiny around where the bagmark is. I have 2 questions. First, how can you tell the difference between a depression on a geniune mint made coin (mint made depressions) and on a counterfeit depression coin? Second, I've had this 1900 gold british sovereign for awhile. It's in a PCGS AU58 holder. I bought it as MS, but it didn't make the grade. I was told these are often counterfeited. Well I found what appears to be a mint made depression, or a bagmark. I can't tell. I looked at it under my loupe, and with the attached image on a microscope. If you look at the bottom of the depression/bagmark you'll notice it is slightly shiny. I think this means it IS a bagmark. What do you think? [IMG]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/spacetimecont/godsov19002.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/spacetimecont/godsov1900-1.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/spacetimecont/PCGSVICTORIA.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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