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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3055217, member: 19463"]I see no value whatsoever in applying 2018 values to assessments of ancient rulers. It is very popular today with American heros of previous generations losing their status because they were slave owners (Washington, Jefferson). Most wealthy Virginians owned slaves. That does not make it right but it is a fact. All Roman Emperors owned slaves. </p><p><br /></p><p>I would suggest you avoid ancients altogether. If you wanted to apply then current standards in such a judgement, you might collect Consecratio coins showing rulers judged to have been good by their successors. You will still want to drop a few of them (Commodus, Caracalla) whose elevation was political rather than merit based but the group as a whole are relatively good. Now some will suggest that Constantine I, a saint in the Orthodox church, might have been better had he not killed his son Crispus, his wife Fausta and co-emperor Licinius but we each will have to judge where we draw the line.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3055217, member: 19463"]I see no value whatsoever in applying 2018 values to assessments of ancient rulers. It is very popular today with American heros of previous generations losing their status because they were slave owners (Washington, Jefferson). Most wealthy Virginians owned slaves. That does not make it right but it is a fact. All Roman Emperors owned slaves. I would suggest you avoid ancients altogether. If you wanted to apply then current standards in such a judgement, you might collect Consecratio coins showing rulers judged to have been good by their successors. You will still want to drop a few of them (Commodus, Caracalla) whose elevation was political rather than merit based but the group as a whole are relatively good. Now some will suggest that Constantine I, a saint in the Orthodox church, might have been better had he not killed his son Crispus, his wife Fausta and co-emperor Licinius but we each will have to judge where we draw the line.[/QUOTE]
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