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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;cpm9ball, post: 2703518, member: 24633&quot;]If it doesn&#039;t involve the rim, I simply refer to it as a die break. If it involves the rim and the field, I call it a cud. If it involves the rim, alone, it is also considered a die break. The reason I make this distinction whenever the subject arises is just to let people know that there are two schools of thought on the subject, not that one is right and one is wrong.</p><p><br /></p><p>What I do object to, however, is when one so-called expert bad-mouths another expert who is no longer alive to defend themself even though that person was well-respected by others. To me, that doesn&#039;t show much class and speaks to that person&#039;s lack of integrity.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, Doug, I&#039;m sure this difference of opinion has been going back and forth as long as we can remember, but the fact remains that <b>the cud of a ruminant</b> from which this error derives its name has been around for many, many centuries longer than coin collecting.</p><p><br /></p><p>Chris[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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