Question for those who have been collecting for decades now.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by model77, Dec 14, 2011.

  1. slippinin

    slippinin New Member

    I've collected a few different things over time and one problem, whether it's coins or anything else, is that the people producing the stuff are trying to squeeze every dime that they can out of it, so they usually end up making so many in order to have enough to sell to everyone that that in itself makes the stuff uncollectable. I suppose low runs is one way to go, but if everyone else is doing the same thing then a large portion of what you're collecting will remain intact and won't be lost over time and there will still be a lot of them. One coin I'm having a hard time finding a really nice one in circulation is the 1999-P new jersey state quarter. I'll probably have to buy a roll of them someplace. You can't really go wrong with gold and silver as far as I can see, it's a good bet those prices will rise by the time your kid has grown.
     
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  3. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    So, set aside a stack of copper-nickel moderns today, and in 115 years they'll probably be worth something, too. :)

    ...assuming that anybody outside a narrow niche even remembers coins by then. Cash is already being replaced by cards. To draw just one possible analogy, how many people do you know today who collect matchbooks? It was quite the rage back in the late 1960s when I first got interested in coins. Today, I can go for weeks without ever even seeing a match.
     
  4. model77

    model77 Silver Stacker

    Sorry to have been away from this tread for a while and thank you for your responses. So far i am concluding the following.

    1. don't buy her coin, buy her a house! HAHA, I think I will try to pay off my own house first! I'm not looking for coin to make her independently wealthy. I just see that she has fun playing with Money with Daddy. She doesn't even know what money is really. I thought it would be fun to start a little collection that would be hers and I'm looking for the best coin to do it with.

    2. mint sets for each year. sounds like a great idea!

    3. pre '82 pennies. This is what I had been leaning towards. When I told my Mom I was starting to collect Junk silver she mentioned how stupid she felt that she did not do it back in the 60's when she could have got them for face. Maybe, just Maybe copper will be the next bullion to pop up.

    4. BU rolls each year. Good Idea!

    5. BU foriegn coin for economies that will grow. interesting idea. i think I want to learn about us coins first and grow from there. Maybe as she gets older she will think foreign coin is really cool though!

    6. I have not had anyone mention Ikes. These seem to be getting rare already, but can still be had for face. Do you think they have a future? Clad or only Silver?

    I'm not intending this to replace a college fund ect. I just thought it would be fun, and thought i would get advise on what type of coin has the most potential. Those that mentioned the Barber are most on track with my train of thought. i was just wondering what my generations Barber will be.
     
  5. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    http://www.cointalk.com/t196115/
     
  6. sodude

    sodude Well-Known Member

    I like the idea of BU rolls. In a couple decades she can search them and/or sell them. I'm not sure how they fare in the paper wrappers over that period of time though.
     
  7. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    Melt value, yes, but take them to a place to get them melted, you won't get 2 cents per penny. ;)
     
  8. Clint

    Clint Member

    Where can you get Ikes at face?
     
  9. ArthurK11

    ArthurK11 Active Member

    Try your local bank.
     
  10. model77

    model77 Silver Stacker

    It's not every day for sure, but with roll searching I find I am becoming a regular at several banks. I always ask. lot's of no's but so far I have been able to aquire about $80 worth. I buy them mainly looking for silver, haven't found any silver ones yet. trying to decide if I will research and look for rare or error coins or just pop em on ebay.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    model - I wasn't joking. I was doing my best to answer your question. Which was -

    "I'm thinking of starting a cheap collection for my 2 and half year old daughter and am hoping a couple of you could pull out your experience coupled with your crystal ball and give me some advise.

    What coins are there that I can get cheap or at face value that you would predict will be very rare and valuable by the time my little girl is an adult or even as far out as retirement age?"


    Now paying particular attention to your second quoted sentence - the answer is, there aren't any.

    Now you're probably wondering why I say that. Well it's pretty simple. I started collecting coins in 1960 - 51 years ago. And ya know what, when I sold that collection in 2002, I lost money on it. Yes, that means that it cost me more to buy it than what I got back when I sold it. Even after all those years.

    So if you want something to be rare and valuable for your daughter by the time she becomes an adult, or even by the time she retires - DO NOT look to coins as being the means of doing that. Because they won't do that. And they especially won't do that by using coins that you can get for cheap or face value.

    And that's why I said buy her a piece of property. Not a house, a piece of raw ground. Anywhere you can find one and at a price you can afford. But if you can't do that, OK I understand. Then put what you can away for her, in the bank if you have to. Or buy her an annuity through and insurance company with a life policy tied to it. Heck do anything - except coins.

    Now if you want to teach her to collect and let her have fun with the hobby. Jump right in - with both feet ! Get the coins anywhere you want, even right out of your pocket change. Start teaching her to look at the coins, examine them, even now. Get her a magnifying glass at the grocery store. She'll love it ! And as she gets older and learns to read introduce her to this forum. We've got members here as young as 6. And if I'm still around by then, I'll spend hours, every day, teaching her, helping her learn everything I know. And that's more than a little bit. But even if I'm not around by then, somebody else on this forum will be and they'll do it.

    Ya see model, I love this hobby. And I'd bend over backwards to help anybody learn about the hobby. There are even a couple of youngsters that are members here that I started teaching about coins when they were about 8 years old. They're in their 20's now. And we still talk about coins.

    And believe it or not that's what I was trying to do with you. For the answer to what you want to do for your daughter does not lie in coins. But it can be one heck of a lot of fun. So teach her to collect for fun and you'll both be happy ;) Try to make money with coins, and you won't be happy - neither of you.

    Best advice I can give ya.
     
  12. model77

    model77 Silver Stacker

    As Always i appreciate your, and everyones advise. I was not laughing at your suggestion, but at the thought of my trying to pull it off. I predict having a lot more expendable income in about 2 years, but not right now. i speak about getting her involved but in reality I am the newbie! I thought I was asking a valid question, but it appears it is one without a answer. I do have to admit I thought collector coins would grow in value as they got older and more rare. It is disheartening to hear that you lost money on a 50 year collection. My origin is that I started stacking silver, and decided I wanted some pretty silver! She loves helping me roll search half dollars. every time I bring a box in she goes "ooooo money" and comes to sit with me, and help put them back in the rolls.


    Maybe I'll just plan on puting an ASE under the tree each year, and work halves with her right now. we can start a circulated penny book together once I can trust that she won't eat them (LOL) and let her determine her interests from there.




     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Sounds like an excellent plan :thumb:
     
  14. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    FWIW, I agree completely.
     
  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Dang, I started collecting in the early 50's and sometimes want to cry about all the bags of Mercury Dimes, Standing Libs and Walking Libs I could have saved. Haven't really sold much, but getting re-interested in the hobby, I realized that I don't know how much I paid for most of the coins I have. It is a hobby and not really a money making one. With that said, it is still lots of fun to collect ----- anything. I know some people will supress a gag instinct, but get her started looking for state quarters, even circulated ones. They are still worth $0.25 and you can put them in some neat albums. Who knows where that may lead. As far as turning any kind of a profit, you shouldn't go wrong in buying proof sets, silver proof sets and uncirculated sets. Foreign and ancient coins are fun also with that 5/$1 box at most coin dealers (at least for foreign). Happy bonding!
     
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