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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2914358, member: 24314"]SuperDave, posted: "Despite Doug's position, I don't buy the concept of "end stage oxidation is destructive" unless something other than a silver sulfide reaction is involved. Can you scrub it with your thumb and remove it? Yes. You can remove a few molecules of clean silver that way, too; you just don't see it until you've altered the character of the surface. Can you reverse it, even in end stage, so that it's all silver again? Yes. Doesn't sound destructive to me."</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> OMG! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie92" alt=":stop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Folks, each of us have specialties. Some here may be Large cent experts. Some my be coin "doctors" who get their work passed all the time as natural! The best house painter in the world may even post on CT. Others may be photographers. When a guy that can take a pretty image of a coin, starts to tell the expert painter what's going on, it is not only <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> it is like a destructive tin-pest corrosion eating away at the knowledge assembled by experts in their field.</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=1892]@SuperDave[/USER] I should remind you and all of us posting here that, in the big picture, no one cares which concepts we accept and which we don't. The important thing is to know the actual, experimentally verifiable, facts. Here is one</p><p>I think MAY sum up Doug's position and mine:</p><p><br /></p><p>The reason someone "coined" the terms "end stage oxidation" is because that's what it is and it sounds much better than "The surface of you coin has been terminally destroyed forever by corrosion and nothing can restore it!"</p><p><br /></p><p>In an attempt to prove his point, our <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> "Ex-Pert" poster proves he knows absolutely nothing about what "end stage" oxidation actually is:</p><p><br /></p><p><b><i><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)">WARNING NOTHING IN THE FOLLOWING QUOTE <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> IS TRUE: </span></i></b></p><p><br /></p><p>"Can you scrub it with your thumb and remove it? Yes. You can remove a few molecules of clean silver that way, too; you just don't see it until you've altered the character of the surface. Can you reverse it, even in end stage, so that it's all silver again? Yes. Doesn't sound destructive to me."[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2914358, member: 24314"]SuperDave, posted: "Despite Doug's position, I don't buy the concept of "end stage oxidation is destructive" unless something other than a silver sulfide reaction is involved. Can you scrub it with your thumb and remove it? Yes. You can remove a few molecules of clean silver that way, too; you just don't see it until you've altered the character of the surface. Can you reverse it, even in end stage, so that it's all silver again? Yes. Doesn't sound destructive to me." :rolleyes: OMG! :stop: Folks, each of us have specialties. Some here may be Large cent experts. Some my be coin "doctors" who get their work passed all the time as natural! The best house painter in the world may even post on CT. Others may be photographers. When a guy that can take a pretty image of a coin, starts to tell the expert painter what's going on, it is not only :yack::yack::yack::yack::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious: it is like a destructive tin-pest corrosion eating away at the knowledge assembled by experts in their field. [USER=1892]@SuperDave[/USER] I should remind you and all of us posting here that, in the big picture, no one cares which concepts we accept and which we don't. The important thing is to know the actual, experimentally verifiable, facts. Here is one I think MAY sum up Doug's position and mine: The reason someone "coined" the terms "end stage oxidation" is because that's what it is and it sounds much better than "The surface of you coin has been terminally destroyed forever by corrosion and nothing can restore it!" In an attempt to prove his point, our :confused: "Ex-Pert" poster proves he knows absolutely nothing about what "end stage" oxidation actually is: [B][I][COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 0)]WARNING NOTHING IN THE FOLLOWING QUOTE :bucktooth::yack::yack::yack::yack: IS TRUE: [/COLOR][/I][/B] "Can you scrub it with your thumb and remove it? Yes. You can remove a few molecules of clean silver that way, too; you just don't see it until you've altered the character of the surface. Can you reverse it, even in end stage, so that it's all silver again? Yes. Doesn't sound destructive to me."[/QUOTE]
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