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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;CamaroDMD, post: 2909656, member: 5233&quot;]GD, I am confused.&nbsp; I know this post wasn&#039;t directed at me...but I&#039;m not entirely sure what you are trying to say.&nbsp; I understand that copper is highly reactive and tends to tone.&nbsp; Based on your first paragraph quoted above...you seen to believe that the vast majority of the old RD coppers graded today have not always been RD but toned and were then treated in some way.&nbsp; Am I readying this correctly?&nbsp; Based on the reactivity of copper, I understand the logic.&nbsp; Truly untoned old copper should be exceptionally rare.</p><p><br /></p><p>But, then in later paragraphs of the same post (second quote) you refer to old numismatic papers where such treatment was attempted and ultimately failed.&nbsp; You state that they tried &quot;everything they could think of&quot; and nothing worked.&nbsp; You also showed images of a cent you treated later in the thread and successive photos of how fast it retoned.</p><p><br /></p><p>I feel like these two statements are somewhat contradictory.&nbsp; You are suggesting that some unknown secret process exists to untone copper and turn it red (which is at least semi stable because these supposedly treated cents are staying pretty red in slabs at least for a while)...but then stating that such an endeavor has been the unobtainable goal of collectors for decades.</p><p><br /></p><p>Have I totally misread what you are saying?&nbsp; Are you suggesting that there is someone out there who has figured out a semi-stable method and is keeping quite about it to profit from it?</p><p><br /></p><p>I completely agree that copper is very reactive and it&#039;s certainly surprising that so many red old cents remain.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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