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<p>[QUOTE="RonSanderson, post: 2909563, member: 77413"]I cannot offer any brilliant insights - there are already many on this thread. However I think I have an example.</p><p><br /></p><p>First, this is a MS65 RB, certified by NGC to have the appearance (coloring and luster) one would expect after 94 years.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]702260[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>This is one I believe is magically treated.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]702264[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Or is it?</p><p><br /></p><p>The coin looks correct to me. My evidence of doctoring is actually circumstantial.</p><ul> <li>The red one was too cheap - $31.15. The RB coin was four times that.</li> <li>All the seller’s cents were just as Red.</li> <li>After buying this on eBay, I bid and won a Red 1909 but the sale was cancelled out from under me.</li> <li>Then I checked the seller’s negatives. Another buyer had bought about $2000 worth of these Red cents and sent them for grading. They all were Detailed.</li> <li>After that the seller disappeared from eBay.</li> </ul><p>Nonetheless, if this coin is treated it proves the point. It can be brought back to a brilliant shiny state without ruining the luster. And the other buyer proved that it looks good enough to convince an experienced collector (based on his having a level of sophistication to send his own coins to a TPG).</p><p><br /></p><p>So how did they do it?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="RonSanderson, post: 2909563, member: 77413"]I cannot offer any brilliant insights - there are already many on this thread. However I think I have an example. First, this is a MS65 RB, certified by NGC to have the appearance (coloring and luster) one would expect after 94 years. [ATTACH=full]702260[/ATTACH] This is one I believe is magically treated. [ATTACH=full]702264[/ATTACH] Or is it? The coin looks correct to me. My evidence of doctoring is actually circumstantial. [LIST] [*]The red one was too cheap - $31.15. The RB coin was four times that. [*]All the seller’s cents were just as Red. [*]After buying this on eBay, I bid and won a Red 1909 but the sale was cancelled out from under me. [*]Then I checked the seller’s negatives. Another buyer had bought about $2000 worth of these Red cents and sent them for grading. They all were Detailed. [*]After that the seller disappeared from eBay. [/LIST] Nonetheless, if this coin is treated it proves the point. It can be brought back to a brilliant shiny state without ruining the luster. And the other buyer proved that it looks good enough to convince an experienced collector (based on his having a level of sophistication to send his own coins to a TPG). So how did they do it?[/QUOTE]
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