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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2908577, member: 112"]Ya know, I fully realize that trying to get you to understand, let alone believe, what I have been saying is an all but impossible task because you simply do not want to believe it. Apparently you'd rather believe that huge numbers of copper coins somehow manage to resist toning for over 100 years than you would believe that somebody is successfully dipping them, and has been successfully dipping for years. </p><p><br /></p><p>And the huge numbers bit, what in the world does the mintage of a given coin have to do with how many exist today ? Let alone how many have managed to stay Red ! Using the mintage number as a comparison to say that the number of coins existing today is small is ridiculous ! That's like saying a coin cannot be rare today because there was a high mintage number when they were minted ! The two things have absolutely nothing to do with each other. And anybody who knows anything about coins knows that !</p><p><br /></p><p>The reason I am saying that the numbers of Red coins is huge is because <u>I am comparing the the total numbers of a given coin that have been graded with how many of them are Red.</u> In that respect the numbers are huge, especially when you consider the nature of copper and how readily it tones.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for my comments about collectors failing to be able to keep copper coins Red, have you ever read numismatic articles and books written over the last 50 years or so ? Then add to that all the reports on all the different coin forums for the past 20 years. If you have, the stories about all the different things that collectors have done over the years to try and keep copper coins Red are legion ! And in every single one of them no one had any success. Collectors have tried everything they could think of, every storage method they could think of and nothing worked - the coins always toned ! </p><p><br /></p><p>Now could there have been somebody who had success ? Yeah, OK, I'll give ya that. But if there was he didn't tell anybody else about it. And he sure as heck didn't manage to do it with all of the Red copper coins there are out there spanning dates over 200 years.</p><p><br /></p><p>But you go right on believing whatever you want to believe.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2908577, member: 112"]Ya know, I fully realize that trying to get you to understand, let alone believe, what I have been saying is an all but impossible task because you simply do not want to believe it. Apparently you'd rather believe that huge numbers of copper coins somehow manage to resist toning for over 100 years than you would believe that somebody is successfully dipping them, and has been successfully dipping for years. And the huge numbers bit, what in the world does the mintage of a given coin have to do with how many exist today ? Let alone how many have managed to stay Red ! Using the mintage number as a comparison to say that the number of coins existing today is small is ridiculous ! That's like saying a coin cannot be rare today because there was a high mintage number when they were minted ! The two things have absolutely nothing to do with each other. And anybody who knows anything about coins knows that ! The reason I am saying that the numbers of Red coins is huge is because [U]I am comparing the the total numbers of a given coin that have been graded with how many of them are Red.[/U] In that respect the numbers are huge, especially when you consider the nature of copper and how readily it tones. As for my comments about collectors failing to be able to keep copper coins Red, have you ever read numismatic articles and books written over the last 50 years or so ? Then add to that all the reports on all the different coin forums for the past 20 years. If you have, the stories about all the different things that collectors have done over the years to try and keep copper coins Red are legion ! And in every single one of them no one had any success. Collectors have tried everything they could think of, every storage method they could think of and nothing worked - the coins always toned ! Now could there have been somebody who had success ? Yeah, OK, I'll give ya that. But if there was he didn't tell anybody else about it. And he sure as heck didn't manage to do it with all of the Red copper coins there are out there spanning dates over 200 years. But you go right on believing whatever you want to believe.[/QUOTE]
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