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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 2901784, member: 112&quot;]Granted. But you and I both have seen countless examples of copper coins that toned in the slab. Coins that were Red when they were slabbed, but simply aren&#039;t any more. And you and I both know the history of the guarantee issue and how it has changed because eventually even the TPGs had to acknowledge that copper simply will not stay red - not for very long anyway.</p><p><br /></p><p>My point being that all of my previous points are still valid, even when the TPGs cheat some and call coins Red that are not really Red. Which is what you&#039;re talking about.</p><p><br /></p><p>For anyone who still doesn&#039;t grasp what I have been saying, or just flat out doesn&#039;t believe it. Please perform this simple test for yourself so you can see it with your own eyes. Take any copper coin that is original mint RED in your eyes, your opinion. Get some coin dip, hold that coin in your fingers so it is vertical, and just dip the bottom half of it. Just for a split second. What you will see is a very noticeable difference in color between the top half and the bottom half. </p><p><br /></p><p>In other words what you will see is that top half, that you did not dip, even though you thought it was still original mint red - it really wasn&#039;t. The coin had already toned considerably.</p><p><br /></p><p>So why are you really doing this ? Well the coin that you use is probably going to be a fairly recently minted coin. And what you are going to see is that even that coin has already toned considerably. Now just imagine that coin being 50, 100, 150 years old - how much toning would it have then ?</p><p><br /></p><p>When you see things with your own eyes, what you previously thought was the truth, it suddenly becomes very obvious that it wasn&#039;t the truth at all.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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