Question: Countermarks on Roman coins

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Bart9349, May 26, 2023.

  1. Bart9349

    Bart9349 Junior Member

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    My question is about the numismatic evidence found at the Roman fortress of Apsaros in Adjara, Georgia that confirms the presence of Legio X Fretensis.

    Here is the background story:

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    Question: What were the countermarks that confirm the presence of Legio X Fretensis in Georgia? These coins above seem to have nonspecific countermarks.



    https://www.heritagedaily.com/2023/05/study-finds-evidence-of-legio-x-fretensis-in-georgia/147438


    Here is an interesting article that might answer my question:




    https://www.legionten.org/Studies/LXFstudies/LXFstudies.html
     
    Last edited: May 26, 2023
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  3. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

    Hi @Bart9349,

    The counter marks shown in your post look like oblong blobs that vaguely resemble boats. This page http://www.romancoins.info/CMK-legionary-East.htm notes that for Leg X “The shape and style of the "Galleys" vary. Some have rounded bottoms and three oars, while others are more elongated with four oars.

    That’s the most I can help you with. I could just as easily imagine the blobs to be the thunderbolts of Leg XII Fulminata. Maybe other easier to read coins were found but not illustrated.

    - Broucheion
     
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  4. Bart9349

    Bart9349 Junior Member

    Broucheion: Thanks for taking a look. I learn from all you folks.
     
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  5. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    I don't see a galley on these countermarks. Could the 1st one be a club?
     
  6. Bart9349

    Bart9349 Junior Member

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    This article states that the researchers believe that this “X” was the countermark that helps to confirm Legio X Fretensis’s presence in the distant Black Sea region of Georgia.


    https://arkeonews.net/archaeologist...gia-found-evidence-of-the-legion-x-fretensis/
     
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  7. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    I don't know if this kind of countermark is actually meaning Xth Legion. All 10th Legion "X" countermarks I can find in literature are in a square frame, and most often the c/m is a more explicit "LXF" or "LX" or "XFR". This countermark is just a traditional c/m you could find as well on Attic tetradrachms of the 4th c. BC !

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    Or from the "1973 Iraq hoard" (Attic owls of the 4th c. BC), c/m Nr.1 as listed by P. Van Alfen :
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