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<p>[QUOTE="dreamer94, post: 161149, member: 6449"]<b>More on replacement envelopes</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks for the pictures. </p><p> </p><p>The 1964 replacement envelope I purchased did not have the zip code on the return address. The one my 1964 proof set came in did have it. </p><p> </p><p>All of the sets I received contain either two pieces of flat cardboard with the cellophane pack in-between, or with the '56 and '57 sets, a piece of corrugated cardboard. The seller was open with me about the fact that he had replaced many of the envelopes. </p><p> </p><p>I contacted a seller who offers the replacement envelopes in large quantities on e-bay and asked him where he got them. His listings do not say that the envelopes are from the US Mint; they say only that they were purchased in 1965 at their store in Philadelphia. He replied that they were purchased from a "printing jobber". There is some plausibility that a printer would have them available in 1965, which is the year the Mint abandoned making proof sets. On the other hand, it's not clear why the printer would have 10 year-old envelopes on hand, unless they were asked to print them up. They all look the same; the old ones don't look more worn or yellowed. Also, what would make someone think that these envelopes would be so valuable in the future so as to justify buying thousands of them? He must have a huge number because you can buy them in lots of 250! </p><p> </p><p>There may be a way to determine when these envelopes were printed or how old the paper is but I sure don't know how to do it. I doubt if we'll get much help from the Mint since this all took place without their participation.</p><p> </p><p>It might be a useful public service to compile a collection of images of exactly how the original sets were packed. It would help collectors differentiate original ones from altered ones. I learned a number of facts so far, from this discussion.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dreamer94, post: 161149, member: 6449"][b]More on replacement envelopes[/b] Thanks for the pictures. The 1964 replacement envelope I purchased did not have the zip code on the return address. The one my 1964 proof set came in did have it. All of the sets I received contain either two pieces of flat cardboard with the cellophane pack in-between, or with the '56 and '57 sets, a piece of corrugated cardboard. The seller was open with me about the fact that he had replaced many of the envelopes. I contacted a seller who offers the replacement envelopes in large quantities on e-bay and asked him where he got them. His listings do not say that the envelopes are from the US Mint; they say only that they were purchased in 1965 at their store in Philadelphia. He replied that they were purchased from a "printing jobber". There is some plausibility that a printer would have them available in 1965, which is the year the Mint abandoned making proof sets. On the other hand, it's not clear why the printer would have 10 year-old envelopes on hand, unless they were asked to print them up. They all look the same; the old ones don't look more worn or yellowed. Also, what would make someone think that these envelopes would be so valuable in the future so as to justify buying thousands of them? He must have a huge number because you can buy them in lots of 250! There may be a way to determine when these envelopes were printed or how old the paper is but I sure don't know how to do it. I doubt if we'll get much help from the Mint since this all took place without their participation. It might be a useful public service to compile a collection of images of exactly how the original sets were packed. It would help collectors differentiate original ones from altered ones. I learned a number of facts so far, from this discussion.[/QUOTE]
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