Question about the sigle CONOB under Honorius

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Tejas, May 30, 2021.

  1. Tejas

    Tejas Well-Known Member

    I am trying to establish whether the sigle CONOB was ever used on Milan Tremisses of Honorius or not. On acsearch I could only find tremisses with sigle CON, while CONOB only appears on solidi. I know that CONOB was used on Tremissis by Honorius' successors, but is there any case of an official Milan Tremissis of Honorius with CONOB? I really like to know.

    The background to this question is the following: I'm researching a Tremissis of Honorius, which is highly stylised and probably a contemporary imitation. It has the sigle CONOB and the mintmark MD for Milan. If Milan never used CONOB on Tremisses of Honorius, I would be certain that the coin is imitative. I'm not yet posting a picture, because I'm writing a short article about this unpublished coin.

    Many thanks
    Dirk
     
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  3. Dwarf

    Dwarf Active Member

    Hello Dirk
    a quick search in Coin Archives showed only tremisses with CON, just as in acseach.

    Sunny sunday
    Klaus
     
  4. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Dirk, Beast Coins posted the tremissis pictured below on his website. This coin was struck at the Ravenna Mint & has COMOB in exergue. Since these coins were struck at the Ravenna Mint it seems likely they were also struck at the Milan Mint.

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    Honorius, AD 393-423 (struck after AD 408), AV Tremissis: 1.50 gm, 13 mm. RIC X, 1340 (R). Ex Rauch, Auction 79, lot 2547, Nov. 2006
     
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  5. Tejas

    Tejas Well-Known Member

    Hello Klaus and Al
    thanks a lot for your input.
    So far I know that:

    CONOB was used on Honorius' Tremisses from Constantinople
    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5389115

    COMOB and COM was used at Ravenna
    eg
    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5462548

    COM was used at Rome. I have not yet found an example with COMOB
    e.g.
    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=432845
    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7934420

    CON (maybe also COM) was used at Milan. I have not yet found an indisputably official example with CONOB. I found 9 specimen on acsearch all with CON/COM
    eg
    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=90240

    But I just realise that I was completely blind ... or as a German saying goes "I couldn't not see the forrest for all the trees" ... While researching the CONOB vs. CON problem It just occurred to me that my Tremissis has the Solidus reverse legend

    VICTORIA AVGGG

    A Tremissis should have

    VICTORIA AVGSTORVM

    Or are there any examples of official Tremisses with VICTORIA AVGGG? If not, than the mystery is solved, the piece is imitative.
     
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